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Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper!

Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/3/2005 6:31:25 PM
I will be sending you the Article. It claims Mr Von Wade is a racist anti hispanic militant! I have never viewed you as that type of man. However there are more issues I have with this publication! I am the main proponent for the Fernandz cause which is a cause I beleived in and still beleive in. I have discovered the Family is controlled by a meglomaniac and since I have fought for this cause believe I should be able to post against this cause as well. Well they have banned me! I will develop this story more over the next few days and hope I can get some support with regard to the first amendment that Defenzor is supposed to stand for!
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Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Here are the links! 1/3/2005 6:34:49 PM
kenedyranch.net & defenzor.net http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?user=defensornews
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/3/2005 6:41:20 PM
Well, that may be a little over board, but sometimes Eric, you kinda bring it own yourself. i think more people on the other side of issues would take you more seriously if you didn''t fill up so much air time with just empty name calling retoric. I mean, I agree with you on the smoking ban issue, but every time you mention it you have to add all filler. capitalist haters, communists, socialists, militant(comeon, they may be pushy but militant is a stretch) and this goes for anyone not on your side, you try to anaize the situation at times, but you just fill it up with some much non-substancial name calling. it''s the same as the superleft calling anything US realated as capitalist pigs/nazis...ect ect... It adds nothing to the debate, turns alot of people off, and adds to the divide. just a thought.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Good Point Sidewalk Cipher! 1/3/2005 10:36:32 PM
I am new in here and am not familiar with Mr Von Wade; however I do agree with you with respect to the name calling it is really just theatrics and filler. I say this with all due respect and will practice this ethical stance myself! I will be reading the postings from the past! Apropos! I have been posting on the two sites defenzor.net & kenedyranch.net for quite sometime. Everything was alright until I wanted to be critical of an element for which I do not represent. I am from the Body of Christ and reside from within! I have been battling with the Kenedy Foundation And Trust who i refer to as KFATSO. I have also stood up to the Catholic Church here and in the Vatican for our Diocese is the Richest Diocese in the World! I have exposed the pedophiles of Parkdale Baptist Church & the Roman Catholic Church under Bishop Rene Gracida. I also have exposed the fraud & corruption of the Church Universal & KFATSO. I have enormous information and evidence to back up my words! Tell KFATSO & the Fernandez people they woke up a Sleeping Giant.
EVWPosts: 321

Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 11:06:03 AM
I''m really surprized at your lack of education Sidwalk. Those words are not ""filler"" or ""name calling"" as you put it. They have specific definitions that have specific meaning to the subject I am discussing. Pick up a dictionary and discover for yourself. Second, what the hell does that have to do with a bunch of loose-cannon extreamists calling me a racist because they can''t beat me in a debate? Maybe you and those Defenzor types have something in common. I''d watch it if I were you Sidwalk. Your walking a very thin line for someone who cowers away from calling in on the air to make your points because you expose a great intellectual weakness when you do. If you want to go toe to toe with me then stop hunkering down behind your computer and be a man. Call into the show as you have done a couple of times before. You didn''t do so well when you couldn''t search the web for someone else to quote verbatim. As I remember, when cornered, you simply kept repeating some juvenile, over simplistic, unreasonable expection. It was pretty weak. But I guess you bring this on yourself.
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 12:55:51 PM
Did I hit a sore spot or what? Your right, i''m not a professianl talker, I do better when I can think it out, rethink, and check my facts. Plus I don''t have control of the program, so I can''t interupt you to clarify missunderstandings, and a 2 min call is hardly enought time to hash out any important issue with any clarity. If you seriously want to debate some of these issues, you should post more on your web site. Where there is time to analsye, check, reply, the way a real debate works. A two minute call dosn''t really get into the meat of anything, it''s just entertainment, and good at highlighting issues that may have sliped passed so others can go look deeper. a talk radio show realy isn''t the best fourm for true inteletual debate. They have specific definitions that have specific meaning to the subject I am discussing Well, like the smoking thing. You could have taken the time to go into more of the details... who are these anti-smoking groups? all I''ve heard you say about them is the name calling. Have you ever even mentioned thier names or postitions in the community? Who is their leader? who is their spokesman? What is their motive? All I''ve learned about it from your show is they are anti-capitalist commies. I''ve heard you mention the health issues aspect and that some of the science is ""junk science"" well... why not some more details? Any specific studies you can quote? What about finding out what studies and research the antismoking group is basing their position on and telling us the relyablit of those studies? Insted you jsut say their wrong, anyone who supports it is wrong, then people call in and say they agree with you and repeat the reasons you just said. what the hell does that have to do with a bunch of loose-cannon extreamists calling me a racist because they can''t beat me in a debate? Look, I don''t agree with them, but you make an effort to isolate yourself in your extreme right wing retoric. Like I said it''s the same as the super lefties who go on and on about the evil american empire, ""down with capitalism"" while they buy new shoes at the mall... It''s empty retoric... what does calling the antismoking people anti-capitalist add to the debate? As for the racism thing... its pretty much the same thing your doing... not methodicly going over and presenting the evidence, but taking what ever sounds good and going retoric crazy. They are probley upset at your stance on imigration or something (which i pretty much agree with) But insted of methodicly going over the issues and presenting a clearly laid out counter point to your stance, they just say erics a racists blah blah blah. Your walking a very thin line for someone who cowers away from calling in on the air to make your points because you expose a great intellectual weakness when you do. Like I said, I don''t get paid to talk, and don''t have control over the show or enough time to really disscuss an issue... and if i remember when you first started this site you posted quite a bit, untill people started to analyse and dissmantle some of your arguements, then you''ve kinda dissapeared... what happened there? not as fun when you don''t have control over the situation? And I don''t see why you get so offended at an honest critique of your show... Its your show do what you want, I just think it would be a bitt better with more facts and less jabbering... but thats just me. And I understand your just a talk show, your not really there to be super intiletual, if you did it would bore a lot of your listners and they would tune out... And your job, at the end of the day, is nothing more than to get people to tune in... gotta move those units.
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 1:47:14 PM
You were owned Sidewalk. Face it. You jumped on the band wagon and Eric pulled you back on the muddy sidewalk of your reality. Two minutes? I have often heard callers getting a great deal more than 2 minutes air time, myself included. You just have to be interesting, which for you might well be a handicap. As for your true intellectual debates. You are beaten on the facts with near regularity, why would anyone bother taking up your banner? Your claims of honesty in your critique are laughable. Your initial post tacitly accepted the initial racism accusations against Eric and you took the time to beat a good man while you thought you had him down. THEN When an apology would have been most appropriate, you instead seek to demean and belittle Eric''s show as nothing more than ""moving units."" You are dismissed. Hardcore Harry
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 2:30:37 PM
Again, a perfet example.... no reasons or examples just ""your wrong"" and name calling. I can understands Eric''s appeal. I have often heard callers getting a great deal more than 2 minutes air time, myself included Even if you get an entire 15min or however long the segments are thats still only enought time to skim the surface of big issues. People that think that is enough time to get fully explore the deatils of major events are the ones that think CNN, Fox and the cable news networks have ""in depth"" reporting. They don''t, they skim the top like all the rest... for good reason. you instead seek to demean and belittle Eric''s show as nothing more than ""moving units."" You concider that demeaning? Thats his job? Why does radio exist or any media for that matter? What is the structure of our whole economy? profits. Media does that for advertising. meida sells a audience to advertisers, thats their busniess. Thats why CNN and Fox don''t dive into the boring details of world events. The atention span of the american public is very short, if they get board hearing about the complex interrelationships of the world economy they change the channel and miss the Tide commercial. Same holds true for Erics show, hes not there to change the world with the best information he can provide, just to keep you interested to hear about the Sharp Shooters new special. Your claims of honesty in your critique are laughable. Your initial post tacitly accepted the initial racism accusations against Eric and you took the time to beat a good man while you thought you had him down. ????? If I made it seem I think eric is a racist then I must have been unclear. I''ve known racists... Eric is not one. I don''t know how else to prove thats my honest belief. Beat him when he''s down???? I''ve actual thought about posting a topic about this allready but never did. I just think he uses too much jibber jabber name calling insted of diving into more facts. But it''s his show he can do what he wants, I''m sure he has no research team and after 4hours talking on air I don''t think he wants to spend time doing in depth research. Thats fine, but the fact that I have an opinion about his show shouldn''t be taken as an insult. Eric seems like a cool guy sometimes. I don''t agree with him alot of times, but I don''t agree with alot of people, that has no bering on them as a person. Unless its some massive dissagreement, like they like to beat their wife or trip old people, that kind of dissagreement will get you a punch in the mouth.
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 3:38:02 PM
You addressed the racism charge one post too late Sidewalk. Like I said, your initial post reeked of bandwangoning. Hardcore Harry
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

sure... 1/4/2005 4:05:09 PM
You addressed the racism charge one post too late Sidewalk. Like I said, your initial post reeked of bandwangoning. 1/3/2005 6:41 PM Well, that may be a little over board, but sometimes Eric, you kinda bring it own yourself. i think more people on the other side of issues would take you more seriously if you didn''t fill up so much air time with just empty name calling retoric. Yea, I jumped on the ""eric''s a racist band wagon"" I forgot you can''t read...
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Your feeble powers of Justification 1/5/2005 1:02:51 AM
You amaze me with you feeble powers of justification. Just how far is a ""little"" overboard? So, are we to assume that perhaps you entertained a ""little"" merit to the accusations? If not, there is nothing in you statement that dismissed it outright. No. In fact reading it one is left to assume that you embraced it. You certainly DID NOT vehemently denounce it as unjust and uncalled for. Someone calling someone else a racist is a mighty heavy charge. If, as you seem to suggest it is in response for what you call ""empty name calling rhetoric"" on Eric''s behalf it is STILL in no way justified. NO, INstead you do what? You place the blame on Eric for ""bringing"" it on himself. NONSENSE! Yes, I will repeat yet again, YOU tacitly implicated yourself in that post and there is no amount of spin on your part that can put it aright. Again, an apology would have better served your cause. Instead you offer empty excuses. Hardcore Harry
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Sidewalk_Cipher, do you read... 1/4/2005 7:14:16 PM
...even read" name=20773
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Sidewalk_Cipher, do you read... 1/5/2005 9:07:14 AM
Sidewalk_Cipher, do you read...even read ""El Defensor?"" Nope, never have, and I haven''t read the artical that mentions Eirc, thats why I tried to stay away from that part of it. My whole point was Eric paints himself into a right wing cornor with his retoric... Which makes him a target for people who paint themselves into diametricly oposed corners. I have no idea what the artical is acusing him of, so how could I say he didn''t do it, But I also know i''ve never heard any racisim in Eric, so it sounds overboard to me. The debate would be Eric owning you right from the starting gate and you quoting ad nauseum from the two aformentioned sources and or disecting each and every sentence of Eric''s. Guess we will never know... But you have to admit, If you want to challange someone to an open debate, This is really the fare forum for it.
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Re: Re: Sidewalk_Cipher, do you read... 1/5/2005 12:15:40 PM
For the record, it was not I who posted the second part of the issue you rebutted. I assume you were responding to both mine, then, Harry''s quote.
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Re: Sidewalk_Cipher, do you read... 1/5/2005 12:30:24 PM
I assume you were responding to both mine, then, Harry''s quote. yup
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Eric has never (en re time)... 1/4/2005 7:12:41 PM
...during the times I have heard him, hung up ona caller. Does anyone ever remember such a time? Additionally, he has given me much time. Lago and O''Reliey are different cases. Lago lets you get in your point, but his minions normally cut off callers that Will" name=20773
randallpretPosts: 882

Re: Eric has never (en re time)... 1/6/2005 5:01:27 AM
Capt, I know I heard Eric do it once and then brag about how he was able to I will admit it was out of character for eric but he did do it. The caller did not make much sense but eric still hung up on him. I can not remember how long ago it was but I know it happened. I have also heard Eric call people morons, idiots, commies and nazis. He called those who want to ban smoking from restuarants, smoke nazis. I don''t see any point in using such names, I don''t care if they are in the dictionary or not, you are getting too personal when you do that. We need to stick to the issues and not make the people we are debating with the issue. I am not a saint and I have slipped up a few times but I do my best to avoid making personal attacks or being hostile towards anyone on here no matter how many personal attacks or hostilies they throw my way and I have had plenty thrown my way.
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Re: Re: Eric has never (en re time)... 1/6/2005 12:15:13 PM
I know I once heard him deny someone who wanted to call back who had hung up in a fit of passion...I imagine he (or then Dawn, no Giovanni) would have to cut off a caller that used profanity. As to cutting someone off for not agreeing with them, like Mike Savage...I have yet to see this happen.
randallpretPosts: 882

Re: Re: Re: Eric has never (en re time)... 1/7/2005 4:11:29 AM
I have to concede that I never did hear eric hang up on someone just because they disagreed with him but I have heard him hang up on someone once at least. The caller was trying to talk over him maybe I can not remember. He was an unruly caller from what I remember and I did understand why eric did hang up on him. You have to be careful with what you allow to be put on the air. Mike Savage hangs up someone at the first hint of disagreement sometimes, that is uncalled for but it is his show.
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Re: Re: Eric has never (en re time)... 1/7/2005 9:35:38 AM
I have to concede that I never did hear eric hang up on someone just because they disagreed Yea, I can say I''ve never heard him flat out hangup on someone... but he does have that little volume knob he likes to use. If Eric has a point to make, and the caller hasn''t finished or wants to say something, Eric will simply turn them down... say what he wants then let them respond. Its a needed control for a flowing entertaining talkshow, but for a true debate it kind of unevens the playing field.
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Political beliefs, Sidewalk... 1/4/2005 7:09:04 PM
...are personal. If you think that someone" name=20773
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Seriously.... 1/4/2005 4:15:15 PM
If you want to go toe to toe with me then stop hunkering down behind your computer and be a man. That really is quite a backwards statment. You would rather me call into YOUR show that you control for me to go ""toe to toe"" Why not step out from behind the protection of your volume knob and enter into a debate in a level forum? This is the best place for a true debate, it''s equal on all sides, no one has any advantage over another. You used to... why no more? There is no other motive on the message board other than excange of ideas, no commerical breaks to interfear, no need to keep it catchy and flowing... only true exploration of facts. So, if you dislike me that much, want to go ""toe to toe"" to prove me wrong or what ever stop hiding behind your radio show and step into equal grounds.
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Eric and Sidewalk... 1/4/2005 7:16:16 PM
...my I suggest attrending Curtis Rock''s Republican Future Activity on the 20th of January. I will be there and many more would if you two attended!!!
randallpretPosts: 882

Re: Eric and Sidewalk... 1/6/2005 5:06:06 AM
You can count on me being there if I can get the time off. It will be neat and interesting to meet everyone in the person, I just hope no one attempts an assassination of me because I am a communist :).
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: Seriously.... 1/5/2005 12:46:01 AM
A laughable challenge Sidewalk. Let''s see, you would have as your source material Nietzsche and some punk rock band no one has ever heard of. The debate would be Eric owning you right from the starting gate and you quoting ad nauseum from the two aformentioned sources and or disecting each and every sentence of Eric''s. The gauntlet you throw out is as emtpy as your arguments. Hardcore Harry
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Re: Re: Seriously.... 1/5/2005 12:13:17 PM
Harry, Don''t forget denying he [Sidewalk] said things he said! (just kidding, with regards to Sidewalk)
condotTTTTPosts: 94
JAIME KENEDENO/ANTON SCOTT TRYING TO LURE U TO HIS TRAP 1/10/2005 5:06:30 AM
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Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

XXX IS RAY FERNANDEZ 1/10/2005 6:41:34 AM
AT LEAST AT KENEDYRANCH.
CalPosts: 719
Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 2:14:19 PM
i think more people on the other side of issues would take you more seriously if you didn''t fill up so much air time with just empty name calling retoric. A GREAT BIG AMEM TO THAT STATEMENT. TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN. BERNIE SEAL GAVE THE OTHER PEOPLE TIME TO TALK. BOTH ""LAGO"" AND ERIC DO NOT DO THIS.
Texas CowgirlPosts: 16

Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 4:33:59 PM
Actually sidewalk_cipher I believe you have it all wrong here. I picked up a copy of the December 14, 2004 print eddition of the ''El Defenzor''paper from Enrique''s Mexican Food today and read the article in question partaining to the accussations against the talk show host Eric Von Wade. The name calling and racist statements seem to be directed against Eric Von Wade and not from him towards others. Try to stick to the topic and we may be able to make some forward progress. However, name calling from either side is very unproductive and inflamatory. Go read the article for yourself, then try to make some educated comments on the matter in question. That is what I did. Thank you Mr. Sidewalk_cipher and others.
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 4:39:52 PM
I haven''t read the artical and wasn''t commenting on it. My comments were about Erics show in general, I''ve been thinking it for a while and was acctually gonna make a post about it but then this poped up so I put it hear. while eric is a name caller it''s more toward the lefties, I don''t think i''ve ever heard him say anything ""racists"" or called anyone race based names. sorry for the confusion.
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Sidewalk... 1/4/2005 7:18:22 PM
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HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/5/2005 1:08:36 AM
I believe the apology should be directed with sincertity toward the offended party Sidewalk. Hardcore Harry
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/5/2005 9:06:10 AM
I believe the apology should be directed with sincertity toward the offended party Sidewalk.I believe the apology should be directed with sincertity toward the offended party Sidewalk. Ok, sorry your a dummy...
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 7:00:58 PM
Your words represent a seperate issue.
Texas CowgirlPosts: 16

Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/3/2005 10:38:58 PM
I have been listening to your program for some time now and I find it completely wrong of such a newspaper to attack someone whom they obviously don''t know very well. Not only did they attack you, but they didn''t even let you defend yourself. Why is that? What are you opponents affaid of? What do they not want the rest of us to know? I am interested in what is the real reason we are hearing about this now? If anyone knows anymore please comment.
texdisvetPosts: 262

Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/3/2005 10:48:18 PM
I looked at that http: and I didn''t see anything that said Eric''s name in there, why didn''t someone put down which post is was and what did it start with. Here we go again someone always has to say they are offended and that they were the ones being talked about, some people never grow up man.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/4/2005 12:59:33 AM
The Article is in the actual print edition of Defenzor issue before Christmas. It has Mr Von Wade in Bold letters! I will be supporting my claim with a hand delivered copy if Mr Von Wade cannot obtain one himself. Hell they should have sent him a copy since he was the subject. I am only informing Mr Von Wade of this occurrence. I do have issues with this Newspaper and I do beleive in many of the Newspapers Causes. But to me it is not about ethnicity or color!
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

King Ranch: A Tickler of Events to Come! 1/4/2005 2:08:28 AM
Isn''t it intriguing that the voting boxes that determined LBJ''s election were controlled by a man who worked for the interests that controlled our drug-running railroad in Laredo-- the Tex Mex? Is it the same drug network in Florida that controls those Broward County boxes? The same man was implicated in the death of the son of a South Texas attorney, alleged to have been killed by Mexican assassins mentioned in the Torbitt Document as having been involved in the Kennedy assassination. DUVAL COUNTY. Duval County (Q-15) is in south central Texas about fifty miles inland from the Gulf of Mexicoqv and seventy-three miles north of the Rio Grande. It is bordered by Webb, La Salle, McMullen, Live Oak, Jim Wells, Brooks, and Jim Hogg counties. San Diego, the county seat and most populous town, is on the Texas Mexican Railroad at the intersection of State highways 44 and 359 and Farm road 1329, about fifty-two miles west of Corpus Christi and eighty miles east of Laredo. Duval County''s reputation for political corruption peaked with Lyndon B. Johnson''s election to the United States Senate in 1948. The famous Box 13, which gave Johnson his eighty-seven-vote victory, was actually in Jim Wells County, but the manipulation of the returns was almost certainly directed by Parr. In the 1900 presidential election Duval County went Republican, but since that time, thanks largely to the efficiency of the Parr machine and the customary tendency of Hispanics to vote for Democrats, the county has delivered majorities to the Democratic party on the order of 94 percent in 1916, 98 percent in 1932, 95 percent in 1936, 96 percent in 1940, 95 percent in 1944, 97 percent in 1948, and 93 percent in 1964. In fact, only once between 1916 and 1972 did the Democratic candidate receive less than 74 percent of the vote in Duval County; that year, 1956, a mere 68 percent voted Democratic. Even after the demise of the Parr machine in 1975 Democrats continued to dominate. In the 1988 and 1992 presidential elections 82 percent of the county''s voters cast ballots for the Democratic candidate. See: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/DD/hcd11.html The remainder of Parr''s political career was highlighted by a seemingly endless series of spectacular scandals, involving election fraud, graft on the grand scale, and violence. His most celebrated scheme decided the outcome of the United States Senate race between Coke R. Stevenson and Lyndon B. Johnson in 1948. With Stevenson the apparent winner, election officials in Jim Wells County, probably acting on Parr''s orders, reported an additional 202 votes for Johnson a week after the primary runoff and provided the future president with his eighty-seven-vote margin of victory for the whole state. Amid charges of fraud, the voting lists disappeared. Even more sordid controversies followed. As strong challenges from the Freedom party, consisting mainly of World War II veterans, developed in several South Texas counties, including Duval, two critics of Parr''s rule and the son of another met violent deaths. While denying Parr''s involvement in two of the killings, his biographer, Dudley Lynch, concedes that the evidence against Parr in the shooting of the son of Jacob Floyd, an attorney for the Freedom party, was both ""highly circumstantial"" and ""highly incriminating."" After this third murder, Governor Allan Shivers, Texas attorney general John Ben Shepperd, and federal authorities launched all-out campaigns to destroy the Parr machine. Investigations of the 1950s produced over 650 indictments against ring members, but Parr survived the indictments and his own conviction for federal mail fraud through a complicated series of dismissals and reversals on appeal. In the face of another legal offensive in the 1970s and a rebellion within his own organization, he finally relented. While appealing a conviction and five-year sentence for federal income tax evasion, the Duke of Duval committed suicide at his ranch, Los Harcones, on April 1, 1975. See also Boss Rule. http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/PP/fpa36.html While you can''t play ""what-if"" with any certainty, you have to wonder whether the area from San Antonio and Corpus Christi south would have known the same emptiness that prevailed in the in-between sections of Tamaulipas, Nuevo León, Coahuila, and Chihuahua if the Anglos hadn''t turned their particular talents and drives Valleyward. It started as a land of great ranches, which in themselves invite sparse settlement, and it might have remained as untaken as the country between Del Rio and Fort Stockton if Colonel Uriah Lott had not perceived that with a railroad, the Valley could become a year-round fruit and vegetable garden for much of the United States. Lott buttonholed B. F. Yoakum, who at the beginning of the twentieth century sent Captain J. E. Hinckley reconnoitering through the Valley into Mexico to find a way of tapping the riches-almost entirely potential-on either side of the border. He enlisted the irresistible enthusiasm of Theodore Roosevelt, who envisioned a road that would eventually extend all the way through Central America, where he had designs on the Panama Isthmus. Anglo American survey crews came in, built a steel bridge between Brownsville and Matamoros suitable for locomotives or buggies, and began planning other routes that would connect such diverse places geographically as New Orleans, San Antonio, Memphis, and Chicago. Down in Mexico, President Porfirio Diaz, who welcomed yanqui development (translated sometimes as exploitation), encouraged Yoakum and his cohorts, and even offered to help underwrite the cost. Some of the Anglos backing Yoakum remain memorable names three-quarters of a century after the event-Robert J. Kleberg, Robert Driscoll Sr., John G. Kenedy, Caesar Kleberg, and John J. Welder--to name only a few. On January 12, 1903, they received their charter to do business as the St. Louis, Brownsville, and Mexico Railway, to extend from Sinton to Brownsville, with reticulation of future roads to branch northward and eastward from there. The foundation of the paper work for connecting the Valley with the United States and Texas had been laid. Actually, the Anglos had been in the Valley since the period of the War against Mexico. They had been slow to arrive because the area from the Nueces River to the Rio Grande was disputed. Mexico had refused to accept Santa Ana''s cession of the region to Texas, which meant that an enormous region in truth belonged to no one. Or worse, to whoever could take and hold it. It would have been comparable to a modern Lebanon except that fortunately it was empty of people. Then developers brought in the St. Louis, Brownsville, and Mexico Railway. The year was 1903, two decades after Texas had shut down land grants to railroads. No help would come from that source. Rumors of incoming railroads had been spread before, but no rails or locomotives had been seen. But like the neglected maiden who suddenly has three suitors, Brownsville began to be courted by the Southern Pacific and the Frisco-Rock Island, as well as the St. Louis, Brownsville, and Mexico railroads. The town fathers voted to raise a bonus of 12,000 acres on either side of the projected road to the distance of four miles, plus $40,000 in cash, and forty to fifty acres within Brownsville itself for depot grounds plus twenty more acres for shops. The list of endorsers reads like a Who''s Who of Texas for the first half of the twentieth century. Up in St. Louis, another syndicate of almost a hundred business leaders were banding together to see that the railroad got underway. The bulk of the capital would have to come out of Missouri. Ironically, the railroad that brought in the Yankees and the high-gear economy to the Valley went into receivership in 1913, a condition brought on largely by insufficient freight. When the Valley began its boom in the 1920s, the railroad came back, only to run into the growth of the trucking industry. See: http://www.public-humanities.org/tjfall97.html Dutch-born Uriah Lott, who had secured the financial assistance of Mifflin Kenedy and Richard King in the building of the Texas-Mexican Railroad to Laredo, was also hoping to give the Lower Valley the same access to the ""outside world."" A railroad to the Lower Valley would also give Corpus Christi another rail outlet. In 1889, consequently, Lott received a charter to build the St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico Railway. A.M. French, chief engineer on the project, ran several different lines to the river, but eventually agreed on a road that would join the Texas-Mexican Railroad some fifteen miles west of Corpus Christi at what is today Robstown. After sod was broken on the line on July 26, 1903, sweaty laborers set out hacking a right-of-way through the brush south toward the Lower Valley. See: http://riceinfo.rice.edu/armadillo/Past/Book/Part2/railroad.html A native of New York and a steamboat pilot and captain by trade, King came from Florida to Texas and the Rio Grande in 1847 for Mexican War service. Commanding the steamboat, Colonel Cross , he served for the War''s duration, transporting troops and supplies for the United States Army. He remained on the border after the Mexican War and became a partner in the Brownsville steamboat firms of M. Kenedy & Company (1850-1866) and its successor, King, Kenedy & Company (1866-1874). The principal partners were Richard King, Mifflin Kenedy (1818-1895) and Charles Stillman (1810-1875). These firms dominated the Rio Grande trade, on a near monopolistic scale, for more than two decades. See: http://www.king-ranch.com/sideshow1.htm Between 1862 and 1865 Stillman, King, and Kenedy transported Confederate cotton to Matamoros under contract for payment in gold. Stillman bought much of the cotton and sent it to his textile complex at Monterrey, but he sold even more of it in New York through his mercantile firm, Smith and Dunning. The United States government was a major purchaser. On one sale at Manhattan Stillman netted $18,851 on a gross of $21,504. His cotton buyers in Texas included George W. Brackenridge, and one of his major suppliers was Thomas William House [father of Col. E.M. House]. By the end of the war Stillman was one of the richest men in America. He concentrated his investments in the National City Bank of New York, which his son James later controlled, and supplied Brackenridge with $200,000 in the 1870s in order to establish the San Antonio National Bank. Stillman married Elizabeth Pamela Goodrich of Wethersfield, Connecticut, on August 17, 1849. He built a notable home in Brownsville in 1850 and lived in Brownsville and New York City until 1866, when he moved permanently to New York. He died there in December 1875. See: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/SS/fst57.html Henrietta King In 1854, King had married Henrietta Maria Morse Chamberlain, a Presbyterian missionary''s daughter. King Ranch Archives describe Henrietta King as mild-mannered with an iron will which carried her through the prolonged absences of her husband. She had been well-schooled, and was known to give polish and luster to her well-known, generous husband. She also proved she had fortitude, when, pregnant with her fifth child, she was present at the Ranch when the Union cavalry raided Rancho de Santa Gertrudis in 1863. Although the family moved to San Antonio following the raid, she moved them back in 1866 to continue the King family''s ties to the land. Upon her husband''s death when she was 53, Mrs. King controlled a vast area of South Texas and a business that was immensely successful, but not without problems. She immediately turned to Robert J. Kleberg Sr., a young lawyer who had been involved in the Ranch''s legal business for several years. She appointedhim business manager on Jan. 1, 1886; six months later, he became her son-in-law when he married the youngest King daughter, Alice Gertrudis. Under Mrs. King''s and Kleberg''s guidance, cross fences were built to divide the sprawling acres into manageable pastures. They embarked on a brush control program. They suffered through South Texas'' most crippling natural occurrence, drought. They helped to build the town of Kingsville in 1903-04. And continuing Captain King''s prowess in diversifying, the Ranch became involved in banking, lumber, leather goods, newspapers and publishing, retail businesses and dairy farming. Under her leadership and that of Robert Kleberg, the Ranch''s South Texas holdings had grown to 1.2 million acres, 94,000 head of cattle, 4,500 horses and mules, and 1,000 sheep and goats. Estate taxes, operational debt and lawsuits challenging the estate''s division caused uncertainty. In her will, she stipulated a 10-year trust to give her heirs time to settle differences and arrange her affairs and assets. Her ultimate goal was to preserve the King Ranch as a single entity according ""to my wishes and the wishes and views of my late husband, Captain Richard King."" In response, Alice King Kleberg, Henrietta''s youngest daughter and Robert''s wife, consolidated much of King Ranch by buying out other heirs. Thus, in 1934, Mrs. Kleberg created King Ranch, Inc., and it was this entity that inherited Alice''s part of the Ranch as well as the other property which she had purchased. She sold stock in the new corporation to her five children, and descendants of Robert and Alice Kleberg are the 60-some shareholders of today''s King Ranch. From a Family Business to a Corporate Environment. The last quarter of the 20th Century has brought further changes to King Ranch. Since 1977, all overseas ranching operations except for that in Brazil was sold. The King Ranch''s Corporate History statement credits James H. Clement and his successor John B. Armstrong with guiding the Company to eliminate debt and ""...through the difficult Texas business environment of the 1980s and (they) oversaw the painful, and sometimes stormy, transition from a family business enterprise to the present corporate structure with outside directorship and professional management."" Since 1988, the King Ranch Chief Executive Officer has not been a King family member, although the corporate board of directors still includes some descendants. By the early 1970''s, King Ranch holdings totaled, worldwide, approximately 11.5 million acres. In 1974, with the death of Bob Kleberg and Dick, Jr., in poor health, the Family selected James H. Clement, Sr., the husband of King''s great granddaughter Ida Larkin, as President and CEO. Together with successor John B. Armstrong (husband to King''s great granddaughter, Henrietta Larkin), Clement steered the Ranch though the difficult Texas business environment of the 1980''s. They also oversaw the transition from a Family business to a modern corporate structure -- based primarily on the lines of business established in the early years. Eventually, many of the foreign operations were liquidated as the focus shifted back to the traditional domestic lines of business. See: http://www.king-ranch.com/legend.htm See: http://archives.tamuk.edu/database/House.htm (Wedding Announcement - Henrietta Kleberg Larkin to Thomas Reeves Armstrong) Armstrongs mix gentility, old-fashioned Texas ranching Cowboys and candidates, princes and presidents have visited over the years By Mary Lee Grant © July 13, 1999 Caller-Times http://www.caller.com/1999/july/13/today/local_ne/3122.html ARMSTRONG - In the brush country south of Sarita, a few miles east of U.S. Highway 77, sophistication and political power have mixed with the independence of Texas pioneers. Here, 6-foot-4-inch Tobin Armstrong, the descendant of a Texas Ranger and a Yale scholar, and the petite brunette, Anne Armstrong, former U.S. ambassador to Great Britain, hold court. Guests at the 50,000-acre ranch have included former president George Bush; his son and presidential candidate Gov. George W. Bush, the Rockefellers and Prince Charles. Armstrong Ranch still is an old-fashioned Texas ranch, run by Tobin Armstrong, who oversees it by Suburban and mobile telephone. A colony of cowboys who live in houses surrounding the big house work the 2,500 Santa Gertrudis cattle while riding thoroughbred horses, the Armstrong version of cow ponies. ""One of the best things about this ranch is that it is a grandchild magnet,"" said Tobin Armstrong, who has five children and 12 grandchildren, who visit the ranch frequently. The Armstrong Ranch was purchased in 1852 and settled in 1882 by John Armstrong III, a Texas Ranger from Tennessee. He had come to South Texas to clean up the border and became famous for capturing the notorious outlaw John Wesley Hardin. His sons combined the sophistication of an East Coast education with the ruggedness of a ranch upbringing. Charlie Armstrong, Tobin Armstrong''s father, graduated from Yale in 1908 and returned to South Texas to manage the ranch. Charlie''s brother, Tom Armstrong, graduated from Princeton and Harvard Law School before going to work as an executive for Standard Oil Co. The Armstrongs were instrumental in bringing polo to South Texas, and when Prince Charles came to visit, Tobin arranged a match for him on the ranch''s polo field. ""I never rode a bought horse,"" Armstrong said. ""I raised and trained my own thoroughbreds."" Tobin Armstrong was tutored at home until he was 9, when he was sent to private school in San Antonio. He attended the University of Texas and Texas A&M University. Ties between the Armstrong Ranch and the King Ranch always have been close. Tobin''s older brother, John Armstrong, married the King Ranch''s Henrietta Kleberg, and his uncle, Tom, married her mother, Henrietta Kleberg Larkin. John Armstrong was the last family member to serve as president of the King Ranch. Despite the international circles in which they move, the Armstrongs are still ranchers to the core, talking of weather and rainfall as readily as business and politics. ""Look how green the grass is,'''' Anne Armstrong said on a recent hot day. ""We haven''t had it like this for several years. It will be good for the cattle."" Staff writer Mary Lee Grant can be reached at 886-3752 or by e-mail at grantm@caller.com ANNE LEGENDRE ARMSTRONG Armstrong, Anne Legendre (1927-...), was the first woman to serve as United States ambassador to Britain. President Gerald R. Ford appointed her to the office, which she held in 1976 and 1977. She had previously been the first woman to hold the Cabinet-level post of counselor to the president. She was named to that position by President Richard M. Nixon in 1972 and served under both Nixon and Ford. Anne Legendre was born in New Orleans and graduated from Vassar College. She married Tobin Armstrong, a Texas cattle rancher, in 1950. She served as vice chairman of the Texas Republican Party from 1966 to 1968. In 1971 and 1972, she was cochairman of the Republican National Committee. As counselor to the President, Armstrong was a member of the president''s Domestic Council, the Council on Wage and Price Stability, and the Commission on the Organization of Government for the Conduct of Foreign Policy. Source: http://school.discovery.com/homeworkhelp/worldbook/atozhistory/a/723253.html CURRENT SEC FILINGS RE: ANNE L. ARMSTRONG: http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Name.asp?X=anne+l%2E+armstrong ""Anne L. Armstrong"" Latest Filing: 3/29/0 as Signatory As: Signatory (Director, Officer, Attorney, Accountant, Banker, Agent, etc.) List All Filings as Signatory Search Recent Filings (as Signatory) for ""Anne L. Armstrong"" ""Anne L. Armstrong"" has been a Signatory for the following 11 Registrants: American Express Co American Express Co Capital Trust I American Express Co Capital Trust II Boise Cascade Corp Boise Cascade Trust I Boise Cascade Trust II Boise Cascade Trust III General Motors Capital Trust D General Motors Capital Trust G General Motors Corp Halliburton Co ANNE L. ARMSTRONG, 71, Regent, Texas A&M University System; Member, Board of Trustees, Center for Strategic and International Studies; Member, National Security Advisory Board, Department of Defense; former Chairman of the President''s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, 1981-1990; former Ambassador to Great Britain; joined Halliburton Company Board in 1977; Chairman of the Health, Safety and Environment Committee and member of the Management Oversight and the Nominating and Corporate Governance Committees; Director of American Express Company and Boise Cascade Corporation. Source: http://www.secinfo.com/dScRa.6Mx.htm 1931. Following his election to the House of Representatives in November 1931, Congressman Richard Kleberg asked Johnson to come to Washington to work as his secretary. Johnson held the job for over three years and learned how the Congress worked. See: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/biographys.hom/lbj_bio.asp LBJ was a sleeper put in power by the King Ranch, which as was shown in part I of this series, is closely tied to Anne Armstrong, is a director of Halliburton. In 1942 until he left public office, LBJ was financed completely by Brown and Root, now part of Halliburton. In 1960 LBJ was thrust upon Kennedy as his vice president so LBJ could carry Texas for Kenney. LBJ had proved in 1948 that he and his team could guarantee winning the Texas vote. In 1963 Kennedy was killed most likely by an assassination network operated by the King Ranch group and Clint Murchison in Mexico. Murchison was, of course, very close to Rockefeller. As soon as LBJ became president, he escalated the war in Vietnam, which primarily benefited Brown and Root. If this year''s election fraud is allowed to stand, what does Halliburton, headed by Dick Cheney, have planned for us? Although individual men die a generation at a time, networks of families live on. That is what Cheney represents. Thus it comes as no surprise to see what is happening in the presidential election is focused at the moment on Broward and Palm Beach Counties, Florida. A network such as Cheney represents is always prepared for any exigency. This same network was prepared to carry the vote in 1948 when Lyndon Johnson ran for the United States Senate. But Johnson was a Democrat, you say! Not so. He was an egotist and a pragmatist-- he did whatever he had to do to promote Lyndon. His opportunity to broaden his horizons came during the Depression, when he was offered a job in Congress working for a man, seemingly not unlike George W. Bush, a scion of a wealthy ranching family in South Texas with no real abilities or interests, who was elected to Congress on his name and needed someone to do the work for him--Congressman Kleborg. Part One of this series showed the history of Congressman Kleberg, and the King Ranch which his family owned--a ranch which was acquired with profits made from the shipping of contraband munitions during the Mexican War--a war orchestrated by persons who used Barbara Bush''s ancestor, Franklin Pierce, to take the land south of the Nueces River from Mexico after Texas was annexed as a state. The ranches in this territory, owned by Richard King, Mifflin Kenedy and their partner Charles Stillman, operated as a buffer between the U.S. and Mexico. Resentful Mexicans, who felt their land had been stolen from them, engaged in continual raids across the new Rio Grande border. To counteract these raids, the Texas ranchers used the Texas Rangers, commanded by William G. Tobin to chase away the raiding parties. Tobin''s family has continued its ties with the King Ranch family ever since. The Tobin family is intermarried with the King-Kleberg family and with the Armstrongs of San Antonio, Texas. From the present generation springs Anne Armstrong, who is a director of Halliburton alongside Dick Cheney. She has also served on the board of American Express with Henry Kissinger and Vernon Jordan--not to mention having been in London as Ambassador to the Court of St. James. British banking interests have been interested in the King Ranch since as early as 1882 when Mifflin Kenedy sold his adjoining ranch to a syndicate of Dundee, Scotland, called the Texas Land & Cattle Co., Ltd. (See The King Ranch Tom Lea). Within a year of that sale, King considered selling to the syndicate, but the deal was never closed. Another syndicate of unnamed eastern capitalists attempted to buy the ranch in 1907, the same year that Bostonian F.S. Pearson was involved in building railroads from Mexico through west and north Texas to connect to St. Louis. In 1902 the ranchers turned to B.F. Yoakum, friend of Uriah Lott, the creator of the Tex-Mex Railroad. As a result, a corporation was formed with shareholders including the Kings, Klebergs, Armstrongs, Kenedys and others--with Uriah Lott as president. The railroad became the St. Louis, Brownsville & Mexican Railway--which like so many other railroads built by Lott was financed by G.H. Walker & Co. of St. Louis. WAS LBJ A TOOL OF THE DRUG LORDS? Once Lyndon Johnson began to make himself heard in Congress, he quickly attracted the attention of Franklin Roosevelt. He was groomed for many of the endeavors he would use to make his name by FDR backers such as Joe Alsop, who had begun his undercover intelligence career in the O.S.S. Alsop and his brother Stewart were related to FDR by marriage on his mother''s side--the Delano family whose role in the opium trade has been documented previously on this website--as well as being the sons of Eleanor''s first cousin, Corinne Robinson Alsop . In fact, it was Joe Alsop who in 1963 repeatedly suggested to Johnson that the only way to keep the Washington Post off his back was to appoint the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination. The Alsop, Delano, Roosevelt and Forbes families of Boston and New York were interwoven by marriage and by financial investment in enterprises such as the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad. These families stem from a syndicate created by Thomas Handasyd Perkins of Newburyport, Massachusetts--forced out of the lucrative African slave trade to establish an alternative shipping empire based on opium. By the 1830s, the Russells had bought out the Perkins syndicate and made Connecticut the primary center of the U.S. opium racket. Massachusetts families (Coolidge, Sturgis, Forbes and Delano) joined Connecticut (Alsop) and New York (Low) smuggler-millionaires under the Russell auspices. http://www.tarpley.net/bush7.htm This account is supported by historical research conducted by John K. Fairbank in his 1968 article for the American Historical Association, posted at http://www.theaha.org/info/AHA_History/jkfairbank.htm . Fairbank indicates that the opium profits were invested in the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad and the Michigan Central. A man named John N. Alsop Griswold of New York, a Russell & Company partner at Shanghai, returned to become president of the Illinois Central in 1855 and was later chairman of the CB &Q. The CB & Q was, of course, based in St. Louis, and it constituted the northern extension of the same railroad that dipped southerly into Mexico through Kingsville and Laredo. It was financed by the same opium profits. See the NewsMakingNews article at http://www.newsmakingnews.com/lmharvardpart3.htm This railroad now stretches from Mexico to Canada under the control of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe. http://www.tmm.com.mx/english/ihistoria/inuevatmm3.htm This railroad was the primary beneficiary of NAFTA. It is also steeped in allegations of drug smuggling. http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/wardrugs.html and http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200007103.shtml Alsop was aided in his handling of Johnson by Floridian, Phil Graham, the son-in-law of Eugene Meyer--the only man besides Bush''s Uncle Herbie who is known to have invested in George H.W. Bush''s first oil company in Midland, Texas. In December 1959, in preparation for the 1960 election, Graham was already busy planning how to clinch the Democratic nomination for Lyndon. As soon as Phil realized that Johnson was not going to make it, he hatched the plan for Kennedy to select Johnson as his running mate. Johnson himself would later credit Phil with pushing Kennedy to choose him. He told biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin that Phil ""told Kennedy to make me vice president."" Once Kennedy clinched the nomination, Phil and Joseph Alsop hurried to his suite at the Biltmore and explained the virtues of Johnson as running mate....According to Pierre Salinger, John Kennedy''s press secretary, Phil [Graham] was one of the elite group of journalists--others were Ben Bradlee, Joe Alsop, Walter Lippmann--who could simply pick up the telephone and call JFK. They were very close. But the man who really gets credit for electing LBJ is usually said to be George R. Brown of Brown & Root. In the 1930''s the Brown brothers were in a two-bit construction business, paving the streets of small towns in Central Texas. Almost overnight, in 1942 after teaming up with Johnson, they won their first government contract to build a dam, then a naval air station in Corpus Christi, near the district Cong. Kleberg had represented. Their next opportunity was to expand into shipbuilding. By 1947 George Brown was placed on the boards of a number of multi-national corporations with interlocking directorates. During George Brown''s tenure on the ITT board other directors included Allan Kirby, an heir to the Woolworth fortune, Robert Young, a former stockbroker turned railroad tycoon connected with Allegheny Corp., and Robert McKinney-Young''s cousin-of Davis Manufacturing. The names Allan Kirby and Robert Young provide a strong clue to Brown''s other connections. Allan Kirby had had virtual control of Allegheny since 1937. Solomon Warfield had secured a number of shares of Allegheny preferred stock, ""issued in a storm of controversy by the banker J.P. Morgan, who was a chief investor for King George VI and Queen Elizabeth at the time they were Duke and Duchess of York,"" for his niece, Wallis Simpson (later the Duchess of Windsor), which she inherited upon his death in 1927. This stock had always been her ""first investment favorite,"" according to her biographer Charles Higham. When the Duke and Duchess became friends with Robert Young, allegedly after being introduced by mutual friend Robert Foskett after they moved to the Bahamas, Young and his wife Anita became one of their few close friends. Both Foskett and Young were directors of Allegheny and lived in Palm Beach, Florida. By 1941 Young owned a controlling interest in the Allegheny Corporation, a holding company which owned the Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad of Baltimore. In 1954, after a long proxy struggle, and with the aid of fellow Texans Clinton Williams Murchison, Sr., and Sid Williams Richardson, Young gained control of the New York Central and became the chairman of its board. On January 25, 1958, Young apparently committed suicide with a shotgun at his winter mansion in Palm Beach, Florida. http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/YY/fyo12.html Before his death, Young had convinced Murchison to entertain the Duke and Duchess and their entourage at his secluded ranch in the interior of Mexico in January 1950. This is the same ranch that has been alleged to have been used as a haven for the assassination team which operated out of the King Ranch. http://www.newsmakingnews.com/torbitt.htm There was testimony given in a Texas murder trial that there were twenty-five to thirty professional assassins kept in Mexico by the espionage section of the U. S. Federal Bureau of Investigation; that these men were used to commit political assassinations all over North, South and Central America, the East European countries and in Russia; that these men were the absolute world''s most accurate riflemen; they sometimes took private contracts to kill in the United States; that the contact man for employment of the riflemen was a man named Bowen posing as an American Council of Christian Churches'' missionary in Mexico; that you could reach Bowen through the owner of the St. Anthony''s Hotel in Laredo, Texas. Albert Alexander Osborne, alias John Howard Bowen, alias J.H. Owen, a charter member and employee of the A.C.C.C., met Lee Harvey Oswald and accompanied him to Mexico City in late September of 1963. Osborne, alias John Howard Bowen, was discovered to have another person working with him who also used the alias John Howard Bowen. The second person also traveling as Bowen was Fred Lee Crismon, another agent for the munitions makers police agency, the Defense Industrial Security Command. Crismon also posed as a missionary and also used other aliases. Among the cognomens for Crismon were Fred Lee, Jon Gould and Jon Gold. Osborne and Crismon also bore a marked resemblance and appeared to be about the same age. Crismon was a Syrian immigrant and had been closely associated with Osborne since the 1920''s. Crismon, Osborne and their riflemen charges in Mexico were based at Clint Murchison''s huge ranch when not posing as missionaries in other areas of Mexico.
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Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/3/2005 10:50:20 PM
Jaime what in the heck is the Fernandz cause?
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Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/3/2005 11:00:30 PM
I believe (although I am not sure) that Mr. Kenedero was talking about the Fernandez Cause which has to do with a blood line existing from the Kenedy bloodline. It speeks of the possibilities on the website mentioned in the posting above. I think that it is ''Kenedyranch.net''. I didn''t see the accusations on the website either, but I don''t believe that people should not publically mis-inform people. Fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate. People fear what they don''t know or understand. I would also like to see the article for myself.
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Here is some more insight? 1/3/2005 11:34:49 PM
Letters To The Editor -- Corpus Christi Caller-Times, Sept. 26, 2004 ""Dont Fear Truth"" by Claude V. D''Unger The Caller-Times recently reported that the Texas Supreme Court is considering weighing in on the effort of Dr. Ray Fernandez to secure DNA testing of the remains of South Texas rancher, John G. Kenedy Jr. Fernandez, the Nueces County medical examiner, is trying to determine once and for all, if he is a direct descendant of Kenedy. To do this, it is necessary to exhume the late rancher . Kenedy''s estate and that of his sister are worth hundreds of millions of dollars and are basically left in a charitable trust and foundation. The Catholic Church is probably the largest beneficiary of this largess. The trust, foundation and church seem deeply concerned about the perceived loss of a dead person''s money. It appears all of the custodians, trustees, lawyers, as well as the church are ready to spend whatever it takes to prevent one thing -- the truth. No one has stepped up and said, ""Let''s get to the truth of the matter."" After all, DNA testing can go either way. Fear of the truth isn''t healthy and trying to hide it is even worse. There is no moral justification for hiding or trying to hide the truth about Ray Fernandez''s lineage, whatever it may be. Signed: Claude V. D''Unger
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Texas Monthly Article 1/3/2005 11:38:39 PM
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This is the Case the Fernandez Cause is Based on! 1/3/2005 11:31:45 PM
Kenedy Mystique Senior editor Gary Cartwright on researching the Kenedy family, one of the state''s ranching dynasties. Interview by Lauren Smith Appeared in The Texas Monthly (Sept edition) texasmonthly.com: How did you first hear about the possibility of Johnny Kenedy''s body being exhumed? Gary Cartwright: There were a number of newspaper stories about the Kenedys and the Fernandez family in the Austin American-Statesman and other newspapers starting in January when Judge Guy Herman first issued an order to exhume the body. Pamela Colloff, another Texas Monthly senior editor, had also gathered some material on the subject and put me in touch with a former TM intern now working at the Corpus Christi Caller-Times who had some firsthand knowledge of what was happening in Kenedy County. Pam has a great knack for pitching a story idea, and her pitch was so compelling that I realized I''d better stake claim to this story before she jerked it away from me. texasmonthly.com: Did you ever visit Sarita at a time when it was not so desolate? Have you seen photos of the place during its ""French Riviera of Texas"" days? GC: I had probably driven past Sarita before, without knowing it. If you drive U.S. 77 from Kingsville to Brownsville, you pass right by Sarita, but all you can see from the highway is a blinking yellow light and a water tower off in the distance. But no, I never saw it during its prime. In the early 1900''s, when the railroad first reached Sarita, there was a small land boom as promoters tried to lure people from the frigid Midwest to what they were billing as ""California Texas."" For various reasons—including the constant threat of hurricanes—it never took off. The little town of Riviera, which is five miles north of Sarita, was founded by a speculator from St. Paul who thought Baffin Bay, which separates the northern part of the Kenedy ranch from a section of the King ranch, looked like the French Riviera. He built a fancy hotel on a wide boulevard lined with palm trees and a dance pavilion that extended out over the bay. A hurricane in 1916, I think it was, wiped him out. You can still see part of the foundation of the hotel in the community of Riviera Beach, and some of the pilings from the old pavilion still stick out of the water. I have seen the French Riviera, and believe me, it looks nothing like Baffin Bay. texasmonthly.com: Who or what were your main sources in gathering this extensive history? GC: A book titled If You Love Me You Will Do My Will, by Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth, told the story of Sarita Kenedy East (and, by extension, the entire Kenedy family), and it was probably my best source. There were several other books, including TM writer-at-large Don Graham''s wonderful history of the King ranch, Kings of Texas, that were helpful. Then I found a treasure trove of information at the Kenedy Ranch Museum of South Texas, in Sarita. A number of third and fourth generation vaqueros and their families still live in Sarita, and they were all interested in being interviewed—at least those who spoke English. texasmonthly.com: How long did it take to compile the time line? GC: The book on Sarita Kenedy East that I just mentioned had a family history chart, and I located another chart at the museum in Sarita. Also, the Austin law firm that represents the Fernandez family had done extensive research on the Kenedy family and had a lot of information that it made available to me. The lawyers for the Kenedy foundation and the Kenedy trust were helpful too. I took me four or five weeks to absorb everything to the point where I could make sense of it. Senior executive editor Paul Burka, who edited the article, has a talent for organizing complicated family histories—he also edited a similar article I did on the Waggoner ranch last fall—and he helped me enormously. texasmonthly.com: Is it difficult to write a story with such a great deal of background information? GC: It is indeed difficult to write this kind of story. Sometimes you have so much information that you get lost in the mass of it. I have learned to take it slow and to rewrite many times until it becomes clear in my mind. On the other hand, this story was easier than some because (with the exception of the lawyers) there were no living antagonists to negotiate. I hate getting caught between two embattled parties, which it often the case in journalism. texasmonthly.com: In your story, Ray Fernandez says his quest is about ""my mom and our family."" Do you believe that? GC: Yes, I believed Ray completely. He was almost painfully honest. At first I was cynical—I''m always cynical when there is a great deal of money at stake—but Ray had such a strong emotional commitment to his family and to solving the mystery of his heritage that my doubts were quickly resolved. texasmonthly.com: Why is the Kenedy ranch so important to Texas? GC: This was one of the great ranches of Texas, smaller than the King ranch next door but in some ways more traditionally Texas. The Kenedy family was instrumental in bringing the railroad to South Texas. texasmonthly.com: If you could have interviewed just one of the deceased Kenedys, whom would you have picked? Why? GC: Sarita Kenedy East interested me more than the others. She was a tough, strong-willed woman, yet in many ways vulnerable. She apparently felt comfortable moving among the families of her vaqueros and went out of her way to help them. She must have been something of a cowgirl, able to ride and shoot and drink whiskey with the best of them. She was also a devout Catholic, as were many of the people I met in South Texas, and proud of her Mexican heritage. I think it would have been fun to share a glass of whiskey with Sarita and to talk about ranch life. texasmonthly.com: What did most of the people you encountered think about exhuming Johnny Kenedy''s body? GC: People in Sarita seemed divided on the subject. Many of them objected on religious grounds: One does not disturb the dead. But some of them thought that digging up the body and testing it for DNA was the only fair thing to do. I think many of them had empathy with Maria Rowland, the Kenedy maid who gave birth to that child back in 1925. texasmonthly.com: Do you think Elena Kenedy knew about Ann? Do you think Johnny Kenedy is Ray''s grandfather? If so, what evidence is most convincing to you? GC: Yes, I''m convinced that Elena knew about Ann. As one of the lawyers said, ""a wife knows."" And my hunch is that DNA tests will prove that Johnny was the father. Other DNA tests from Kenedy family members indicate a strong possibility that Ann was a Kenedy. Nobody knew about DNA in 1925, but today it''s our best evidence in numerous legal cases. texasmonthly.com: Are there many historians who focus on South Texas? GC: Many books have been written about the King ranch, which, to many Texans, is South Texas. But there are few books about the Kenedy ranch or the other big ranches down there. Researching this story was my first close experience with South Texas and I loved it. It remains wild and desolate and in places looks much as it must have looked hundreds of years ago. I used to think South Texas was Padre Island, but I know better after doing the Kenedy ranch story.
Texas CowgirlPosts: 16

Re: This is the Case the Fernandez Cause is Based on! 1/4/2005 12:00:55 AM
Wow! Now thats alot to swallow! Seems as though this a pretty big ''cause''. How does this cause have to do with an article talking about Eric Von Wade? I don''t get it. I understand there are two issues here, but how do they relate to one another? I also believe in the right for people to know their heritage and I also believe in peoples other rights, i.e. freedom of speech, own guns, ect. So could you please explain how these two topics connect? Maybe it''s just me. The third website referred to some sort of printed ''newspaper'' of the Defenzor???? Does anyone know about this? Please write back if you do.
texdisvetPosts: 262

Re: Re: This is the Case the Fernandez Cause is Based on! 1/4/2005 7:33:06 AM
What''s up surfer girl, yea like I said there''s always going to be some lamebrain out there that will try to attack someone when they are practicing their free speech to turn what you said around to mean that you are talking about them directly...these people act like they are from another country...sad sad sad people in this country..//Scott
texdisvetPosts: 262

Re: This is the Case the Fernandez Cause is Based on! 1/4/2005 7:37:20 AM
Thanks a bunch Jaime, I read some of that stuff on the defenzor and all I saw was someone on there saying ANGLO this and Anglo that like WE were the ones that killed someone back then...tell me where prejudice comes from. God will literally squash anyone that puts down another because of their skin color due to the fact THAT HE CREATED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. Many people will go to the judgement day thinking I fought just for MY people..well they can go right ahead and mess up their eternal lives, than again I don''t think they KNOW GOD to start with like so called Jesse Jackson I wouldn''t call him reverend. He is not taking a stand for ALL people just his own.//Scott
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Mr Von Wade is not down? This will springboard him to another level! 1/4/2005 10:23:21 PM
I think EVW can ""take a licking & keep on ticking"". It seem like Sidewalk can take a few blows and remain committed to his arguements also! This is a good group of online advocates.:)
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: Mr Von Wade is not down? This will springboard him to another level! 1/5/2005 1:25:47 AM
Sidewalk is like Mike Tyson''s opponent''s pre Buster Douglas. He shows up he takes a punch and then it is lights out. Seriously, I think he does better at pop culture type issues than he does at political ones. At least there he does enjoy a bit of consensus. I will freely admit that I have shared a similar opinion on a few occaisions with Sidewalk. Although, I don''t really agree with his adoration of punk rock. The only exception to this would be music from ""The Clash."" (Some of their tunes are pretty darned good IMHO). Hardcore Harry
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

BLAH BLAH BLAH 1/5/2005 10:14:44 AM
Sidewalk is like Mike Tyson''s opponent''s pre Buster Douglas. He shows up he takes a punch and then it is lights out. Look, I said Eric uses too much empty retoric... no one has tried to dissprove that or show how the retoric isn''t empty and highly valuable peices of information. All you''ve said is I''m wrong your right... OFFER SOMETHING!!
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

The clash... 1/5/2005 2:28:59 PM
The only exception to this would be music from ""The Clash."" (Some of their tunes are pretty darned good IMHO). Well Hot Damn Harry... You dig the Big Labowski and the Clash... for jar head goon you have good taste in pop culture. The Big Labowski really does perplex me though, you said you admired the life style, but the Dude was like the poster boy for lazy pot head slackers. Thats why I think he''s cool, not a care in the world, just bowling and Creedence... thats great! But for a military man, shouldn''t that care free unstructred life style be dispised? I always picutured you as the other Labowski... all mean and cut throat and constantly pointing out the short comings of the slacker life.
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: The clash... 1/5/2005 2:52:49 PM
You ever read the book the ""Tao of Pooh?"" I picture Jeff Bridge''s Labowski as a sort of Pooh. He is the ""uncarved block."" He just ""is."" Actually if I had to pick a Big Labowski character I most resemble I''d have to say it was John Goodman''s. ""Mark it an 8."" Hardcore Harry
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: The clash... 1/5/2005 3:33:17 PM
Actually if I had to pick a Big Labowski character I most resemble I''d have to say it was John Goodman''s. I could see that...
texdisvetPosts: 262

Re: Mr Von Wade is not down? This will springboard him to another level! 1/5/2005 12:46:37 PM
We all have to agree to disagree, like I said if everyone were just like me in this world and shared my exact same views it would be a boring would that''s why every single human being that has ever set foot on this Earth has absolutely diff DNA, God being the creator..the secular world can''t explain that one..a big explosion caused that? Eric can take anything because he knows what kind of people are saying this stuff from the Defenzor..they wouldn''t say anything about me because if they sue me they couldn''t get any $$ out of me..that''s what it''s really all about. This world White Black Hispanic Cubans and the such have 2 different kinds of people those that get into the American system and do something with their lives and on the other hand the lamebrain that just want to sue or look for a hand out. What a way to live always saying ""woah is me"". None of us had anything to do with the way we were born or what color, once you have this attitude than you will succeed. I went in the Navy at 19 just like any of these Handout people could have, after that I was able to get a good job. I read one time in the blotter some chic talked about all of us well off people on the southside. Maybe if she would have gotten off her butt and made something of herself than she too would be able to live a little better life while here on Earth.//Scott
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Tex: Things are not that simple! Quit being so judgemental! 1/5/2005 2:41:57 PM
A lot of people have sued Defenzor but I do not know any who have been sued by Defenzor! I wander how many times Eric has been sued? There has been a history of discrimination toward minorities in S Texas and now reverse discrimination. Do we want to make things better?
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

There is no such thing as"
My friend, there is no such thing as ""reverse discrimination."" Discrimination is when a group, any group, is given an injustice or subjugated. It is wrong inall cases. ""Reverse Discrimination"" would describe a condition where there was the ""opposite"" of discrimination...thus, tolerance. Additionally, the idea of ""reverse discrimination"" assumes that ""white people"" are the superior race. Why do I say this? Because discrimination is wrong in all occasions no matter who is discriminating. The idea that Minorities (such as myself)are the only one capbale of being discriminated against assumes that the Majority is somehow above the Majority. To me, such titles are now arbitrary. In my sphere of existance, Hispanics are the numerical majority to all other groups. My point is to refer to discrimination as the evil it is and not to make arbitrary distinctions.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Capitan: Pardon my terminology? 1/5/2005 6:07:02 PM
My words were not intended to establish a class hierarchy. Reverse Discrimination is a word I was unaware of the connatations you presented. Discrimination stems from the corrupt in our world. It is a machanism of the elite who use it to better themselves and those around them! It is about haves & have nots!
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Re: Capitan: Pardon my terminology? 1/5/2005 6:40:42 PM
Exactally, all discrimanation is wrong. Once we idenitfy that fact, then the true fight against it is winnable!!!
dannoynted1Posts: 558

""KEYS Radio Host Promotes ""Borderline"" Violence Against our People! 1/4/2005 1:03:49 AM
It is only fair to inform u of an unseen adversary
texdisvetPosts: 262

Re: ""KEYS Radio Host Promotes ""Borderline"" Violence Against our People! 1/5/2005 12:33:37 PM
Can you explain what you just said Dannoynted1
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Captain Carralles I agree with you about the two publications! 1/4/2005 8:10:08 PM
I agree Capt! I know Defenzor really does mean good & they are very good people! I know Homer Villareal as we have debated (agreed & disagreed) several hours! Truly he has inspired, educated, & mentored me as I was a primary beleiver in many concepts I truly beleive in fighting for! I also beleive Both factions have common ground that could bring many together in South Texas! I do not beleive Mr Von Wade is Racist as I do not beleive Defenzor is only fighting for it''s ""Raza"" either! I have been banned for 39 days for posting Adversely to a cause for which I have earned every right to rebuke! The Fernandez cause has stemmed out of the Fernandez Lawsuit involving the Kenedy Foundation. I thought maybe they were gold diggers at first when they asked me to help with thier battle. After working with them I now know Ann Fernandez is the Daughter of John G Kenedy Jr. But I also know her daughter in law Marie Fernandez wants it more than everyone else together! Now Defenzor claims they are not public people but when I was fighting for Ray & Marie Fernandez; it was Okay to use everyone''s name including Ray & Marie Fernandez & KFATSO officials as well as clergy of the Church Universal. This is a lot to read so I will be posting more later!
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Captain Carralles I agree with you about the two publications! 1/5/2005 12:57:17 PM
I also beleive Both factions have common ground that could bring many together in South Texas! Thats exactly my point... but as long as Eric calls anyone who dosn''t agree with him a capitalist hating degernarte commie... and the Defenzor or who ever on ""the raza"" side call anyone who looks at imigration from a different perspective ""racists"" the common ground will never be found. That was my whole point! More people on the other side of issues would take them seriously if they chilled out on the emotional retoric and just stuck to methodical facts.
cccghPosts: 868
Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/5/2005 4:59:21 PM
Not long ago my youngest son, who has a quick temper, was out playing with the neighborhood kids. There were two little girls who happened to be black. They were loud and whining alot and my son quickly tired of it so he told them to go home to their mother. They went home with their feelings hurt and I don''t blame them. BUT, the mother came out in the street to my 9 year old son and started yelling at him calling him a racist and tried to grab him. All this in front of all the other children. He was scared and humilitated. I didn''t find out until after he had come in and refused to come out of his bedroom. The other children told me what that woman had done to him. Take note, she is a substitute teacher here in CCISD. When I counciled my son, he had NO idea what ""racist"" ment. I believe him. He has never shown attitude towards any other person based on their skin color in his life and if he ever did and I found out he would have serious trouble with me. This family is one I have healped many times in the past when the mother came knocking on my door for rides to the doctor or sugar for her kitchen. I thought she was a nice person back then. But her loose use of the term ''racist'' to my young son changed everything. If she had a problem with the boy, she should have acted like an adult and come straight to me before attacking my son in the street with false accuations. When I hear others being called a racist NOW I have a difficult time believeing it. I think some use the term too broadly and out of anger and falsely ruin good people''s reputation. It is a shame and I have dumped that woman from the list of people I take the time to acknowledge. If the name is true, call it, if not, hold your tongue.
sidewalk_cipherPosts: 3178

Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/5/2005 5:25:11 PM
BUT, the mother came out in the street to my 9 year old son and started yelling at him calling him a racist and tried to grab him. Thats kinda crazy... yelling a kid calling him a racists... Along the same lines as picking on old ladies and animals. When I counciled my son, he had NO idea what ""racist"" ment. I believe him. It reminds me a the South Park Episode where Chef wants the south park flag, a black man hanging by a noose surrounded by white guys, changed because it''s racists. The school has a debate and the Stan and Kyle join the side of it shouldn''t be changed, and Chef thinks they have turned racists. But it turns out they didnt'' see the flag as a black guy getting hung by a bunch of white guys, they just saw some people hanging someone... ""because the color of someone''s skin dosn''t matter"" The nievity of kids is great... And I hope I will remain the eternal child.
cccghPosts: 868
Re: Re: Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/5/2005 5:39:43 PM
:) Hi Sidewalk. Well, he understands the right and wrongs of treating people badly just because they look different than himself. From the moment my children could understand I have tried to teach them to respect others. Now, the boy does have a temper and whining little girls are a hot button for that temper and I will never stop trying to teach him paitience and will punish him when he is wrong in the use of his temper towards others. But that woman pissed me off to the extreme level of my own paitience with her actions to my child. I will not tolerate crap like that and if she ever has the nerve to ask me for help again my answer will be NO.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

CC: I agree with everything U Said but the throwing away part! 1/5/2005 5:40:55 PM
Maybe U should elevate yourself to another level & reason with the woman. She was standing up for her kid in the best way she knew how! Sometime after your forefathers and recent relatives have been enslaved & mistreated for 100s of years it just doesnt get corrected overnight. On the same subject maybe the lady should show more of an effot also! Good point!
cccghPosts: 868
Re: CC: I agree with everything U Said but the throwing away part! 1/5/2005 5:51:08 PM
I suppose you are right in a historical way but it still does not excuse her actions here in the present. She should reason with me and apologise to my child. Before this happened I treated her and her family with nothing but respect and friendship and I would have never treated her three children in such a way. My son refused to play with the other children in the neighborhood for 5 months after that happened because he was so humilitated and scard of her. I can not forgive so easily when I see my baby hurting so much.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

CC: I understand your feelings 1/5/2005 5:57:43 PM
But we must all forgive as Jesus forgives us. He did not suffer on the cross for us to keep these things that harden our heart! Of course to recieve forgiveness we must ask for forgiveness. An apology from the lady would be a tremendous gesture. Pride is standing in the way of neighbors!
cccghPosts: 868
Re: CC: I understand your feelings 1/5/2005 6:08:39 PM
Your right. Maybe someday we can mend this. The main point of the story is that terms such as racist should be used with caution lest they lose their meaning and impact.
HardcoreHarryPosts: 2055

Re: Re: CC: I understand your feelings 1/5/2005 7:23:45 PM
""The main point of the story is that terms such as racist should be used with caution lest they lose their meaning and impact. "" EXACTLY!! Cheapen the word as this parent did to your son or this paper has done to Eric and one day the word will cease to have meaning. Some opinions ought to be reserved for the most dire circumstances. I tried reading their website and it was Anglo this and anglo that. That term in itself is dispicable because the Angles and Saxons were invaders where my ancestors came from. Hardcore Harry
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Harry: Moderation is key if we want to unite and therefore a better S Tx 1/5/2005 8:48:58 PM
I think there are many interpretations depending on who''s shoes a person stands in. Meaning Perspective! Education from both left & right! Listen to each other! I have been saying it is about haves & have nots. Not Anglos or Gringos, Mexicans or hispanics, Blacks, Jews, or Asians etc. This unification is about bringing an end to the discrimination and $$$$ tier system that oppresses many a hard worker! It is about the Government & Elitist getting away with it because they can!
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Anglo is not the term for"
...many South Texans use the term ""Anglo"" to describe ""white people."" This is a misnomer, Anglo means England, the Land of the Angles, who were Norse invaders. Many of the people targeted as being Anglos are German, Poles, and of other European stock (including Spanish who are not Moors (Moros).
LONEWOLFPosts: 547
Re: CC: I agree with everything U Said but the throwing away part! 1/6/2005 3:07:53 PM
""She was standing up for her kid THE BEST WAY SHE KNEW HOW"" SHE CAN SOMEHOW COME TO BE TRUSTED WITH THE CARE AND EDUCATION OF A CLASSROOM FULL OF CHILDREN BUT ""THE BEST WAY SHE KNEW HOW"" TO DEAL WITH A MINOR SPAT BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS IS TO WRONGLY ACCUSE A LITTLE BOY OF BEING A RACIST. -- THE LOWERING OF THE BAR FOR BOTH TEACHERS AND PARENTS CONTINUES. ""Sometime after your forefathers and recent relatives have been enslaved and mistreated for 100s of years it just doesn''t get corrected overnight."" YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THAT WOMAN''S LINEAGE SO FOR YOU TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT HER BEHAVIOR IS THE RESULT OF HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF ENSLAVEMENT AND MISTREATMENT OF HER FOREFATHERS IS AT BEST, FATUOUS. I''M NOT SURE WHICH IS MORE DISTURBING. HER BEHAVIOR OR YOUR BLITHE, INANE DISMISSAL.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Lonewolf: It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out? 1/6/2005 3:44:22 PM
The lineage and enslavement go hand in hand when it involves a black person calling one a racist! Very few blacks & hispanics in S Tx had ancestors who were enslaved. Maybe a slight presumption on my part but accurate nonetheless. As for her being a sustitute teacher here in the Body of Christ (CCISD) these actions speak volumes for the District''s inept approach. There are a lot of teachers who care but the ones who only care about getting paid and thier computers are giving all a bad name. I left this district for that very reason. Then maybe it is the objective difference between personal life & others not persionally related to her. I was not taking up for her in the slightest! But we all need to start having a little more understanding of each other. I can see there is no tolerance in your approach? Try a little love & understanding! Children are innocent & they should not suffer from the adults who continue to perpetuate the cycle. Be a Man & take the first step. Listen to the other side!
LONEWOLFPosts: 547
Re: Lonewolf: It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out? 1/7/2005 2:45:35 PM
What exactly do you mean by ""I can see there is no tolerance in your approach.""?
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Did, El Defenzor, ban you... 1/6/2005 12:52:43 PM
...or the Fernandez Group? I am unclear on that subject.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Yes, I am banned for 30 days for attacking the very cause I fought for! 1/6/2005 2:06:22 PM
I fought a huge battle for the Fernandez Cause which I still beleive in. However the wife of Ray Fernandez developed a big head after they were out of the woods. Now that I helped them do the research and fond the DNA and after they agreed to compensate me for the research and attorney dossiers I put together the wife tried to cut me out! I will explain more if you need! Yes, I am banned for 30 days for attacking the very cause I fought for! It is wrong in every principle Defenzor stands for! Ask Homer!
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

In find it hard to belief... 1/6/2005 2:44:08 PM
...that they could ban anyone. This webpage is full of topics and threadsters that disagree with Eric Von Wade. I have never known him to ban anyone, nor delete a post (unless it was a commercial) fo rits content. We have a whole host of people here who freely show ideas.... Sidewalk_Cipher- A skeptic of governmental actions and foil for Eric, others and sometimes me. Randalpret- A self-described communist. Numerous Liberals and Conservatives. I can''t understand the logic behind banning someone, it is Undemocratic, Un-Constitutional and Un-American. Is it a forced" name=20773
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

I can post from a different IP or Computer but if I put my name they delete 1/6/2005 4:02:30 PM
It says to me when I click the link: Sorry You Have been banned from this board! I have saved all of my postings and have defended this Newspaper & the Fernandez Cause valiantly! Now I have seen that Marie Fernandez was only using myself & Defenzor to achieve a goal. Her promises in writing and in person were never intended to see fruition. I have led a huge number of people to support this cause. To be abandoned repeatedly after beleiving trusting & having faith in them; It is my duty to inform everyone of these inexcusable actions! What if the Fernandez''s win control of KFATSO? We surely do not want Marie tellin her husband (our medical examiner) how to jerk around poor people! She is a Meglomaniac!
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Defenzor claims legal reasons 1/6/2005 4:21:06 PM
JAIME WE WILL NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ELEVATED ATTACKS. THEY ARE PROBABLY NOW LITIGATION ISSUES. YOU HAVE BEEN A FREQUEST POSTER, BUT YOU OVERSTEPPED YOU BOUNDRIES AND IMPLICATED THE STANDING OF THE DEFENZOR. YOU WILL BE BANNED FOR 30 DAYS. -- EL DEFENZOR
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Re: Defenzor claims legal reasons 1/6/2005 4:47:28 PM
I am affraid that the Defensor Staff is deadly affraid of Law suits, maybe more concerned about CYA (the covering of a certain body part) than meeting its goal. That will have to be addressed. Many minority organizations are quick to file lawsuits, I wonder if that mentality is having lasting impressions on the WEBMASTER. A twisted form of" name=20773
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

Of Course I will continue Capt. I am elated to have found this room! 1/6/2005 7:13:08 PM
I am still getting to know the board as will be the case for a while! You Captain are a personality anywhere you write! I hope I can keep up! This board is representative of free speech. It is something I beleived Defenzor would retain. Especially after fighting the Taft City Government who tried to ban his newspaper. I fought that battle with Defenzor! Ask Mayor King if the FBI paid him a visit. Now as for the threat of lawsuits yes, the Fernandez attorney team is becoming rather extensive and they are the ones who could not handle the truth. They had every opportunity to defend themselves but how can you defend if you know you are guilty and the accuser can prove every last word. I have an explanation from Homer if you would like to read it I will email it to you? I used to live in Kingsville and I know Gus & Gus Jr. Aramie and I had another Carralles girl in my class. I do not remember her name but she was a senior in the fall of 2001! i was a substitute at the time. I want to work to bridge a rift of miscommunication in S Tx.
Capt CarralesPosts: 3383

Jaime, call the show!!! 1/7/2005 6:00:34 PM
I dare you to call into EVW. It will surely test if EVW is a racist or not.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

What language should I speak? English or Spanish? 1/7/2005 6:21:32 PM
Truly, I do not beleive EVW is Racist! I am a much better writer than a talker. I am not an Entertainer and I will be glad to meet face to face one on one with you or Mr Von Wade! An associate of my team has already visited the studio and they are aware of the connection. I hold many values in common with you & EVW as well as Homer. I am much more conservative than is Defenzor.
Jaime KenedenoPosts: 1497

DEFENZOR WANTS TO PLAY BY THIER OWN RULES! 1/7/2005 8:10:00 PM
DEFENZOR WANTS TO PLAY BY THIER OWN RULES! UNFAIR I CANNOT DEFEND MYSELF AND ANY FACTUAL EVIDENCE I POST IS DELETED YET THEY WANT TO KEEP UP DEFENDING MARIE FERNANDEZ! JAIME''S WIFE TO DEFENZOR: ""I''M GONNA FU.KING SURE YOU..."" Posted on January 7, 2005 at 07:49:52 PM by DEFENZOR WEBMASTER Jaime, you and your wife (Dannoyted1) and NEMO (You again as determined by same server IP) are hereby banned for six months. We now interpret your actions as hostile ones. We now have turned the knob to a defensive mode and rightfully so in our own business and personal interests. Jaime, we never expected this from you. It is so petty; we treated you as if you were “Hispanic”; you took advantage of that privilege. Jaime, initially, you were banned because we did not allow you to blast a target (a family that you had a falling out with). In our estimation your actions were perceived as “hurtful”. The initial “banning” was subtlety, an attempt to protect you from “legal” consequences, a subtle attempt to encourage you to reconsider your use of emotionally charged “words” and “phrases.” In the end, you did not contain your indignation – but released it against those that considered you a friend. Jaime, you have violated the rules outlined earlier in this board (e.g., name calling, legal threats, etc); you even have ignored the “banning” a few times and sough new ways to post on our message board. Such deviancy needs to be stopped – NOW!!! A sign of wisdom consists in not abusing an entrusted friendship. The wise person is the one who is a master of himself. There is a Mexican saying, “El enemigo del hombre es su necedad; su amigo, la inteligencia” (The enemy of a person is his/her stupidity; his friend is his intelligence). As a newspaper, we have higher obligations than many others whom their concern orbits around only their needs. Expand your thoughts and enlarge the world. MY RESPONSE KEEPS BEING DELETED BUT THEY WANT TO KEEP THIERS UP Leave my Posting your wife threatened me & my family first! Posted on January 7, 2005 at 08:57:33 PM by Jaime Matilde said, "" Quit attacking Marie Fernandez or else she might do something to you or your family"" ""Leave B Out of this he is a good man"" If you bring B into this I am going to have to say a few things myself"" And the comment to f sue you was in respect to the position as kenedyranch.net webmaster! Not Defenzor! Keep erasing & I will keep re pasting.
The RealistPosts: 202
I pride myself on Keeping it real, ""El Defenzor"" 1/9/2005 2:47:38 PM
based on what Eric has said and done I must say that he is not a racist. He bashed Liberals and some Democrats, but that is not racism. El Defenzor is not racist either, but its 60''s era rethoric smakes of it. they are acting as if Mexicans are being slaughtered in the streets! Thisis the most tolerant time in American History, the need to GET REAL! This Kenedy Ranch/ Catholic Church thing has gone on along time,if it ended today; I think the Catholic Church would have had enough. The Fernandez case...I don''t know very much about it but...I don''t think there is evidence of RAPE here. Get Real!!! Men and women f....have sex people. It won''t be the first time inappropiate sexual activities have taken place between a boss and a subordinate...shades of Bill Clinton? In REALITY, I am glad to have the people from El Defenzor. Welcome. Oh yeah, on this issue... Capt Carrales, I''ve read your posts at that site...you seem to be trying to do good but you get very ethnic there. Plus, I don''t think they want to listen to you. Curmudegeon, they won''t listen to your admittedly racist views at Kenedyranch.whatever. All you are goingt o do is to bring them down on Eric for having racists at his site. Jaime, are you hispanic? You are right, you don''t have to be Hispanic to be part of their movement...victories for liberty are for everyone. BTW, what exactally is meant when y''all say ""la raza."" Oh yeah, one post is enough...we normally just keep information like you have posted in on thread. Harry, don''t be so defensive. Let them talk. Keep it REAL!
condotPosts: 94
SICKO JAIME/ANTON 1/10/2005 4:50:56 AM
Mr. Anton Scott Haley, you are profoundly confused. I have never met you, nor challenge you to a fight at “Whataburger”... You are experiencing metal lapses. You should seek medical help. Sometimes being unemployed is a reflection of a deep depression or something more serious. To repeat I don’t know you. I asked who you were to find out about the allegations. You accused the wives of many prominent men in the community of having affairs with other men. Such false attacks hurts their family, children and reputations unjustly. I hear the respective parties will be filing legal action. This website you have implicated in serious legal matters. The Federal Trades Commission prohits one huge media entity to attack a smaller one (especially a minority owned one). KEYS radio has tried to keep conservative talk radio alive in South Texas. You have committed irreparable damage. I just pray and hope that no party from this media entity egged you on. You have not in your five senses. To repeat, I do not know you. You seem to feel GOD LIKE FEELING. Captain Carrales says you are overwhelmed with “free speech” but it is more than that in my estimation. Again, I do not want TO FIGHT YOU. PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER HURT ME NOR MY FAMILY. I know there is a WARRANT out for an ANTON; I hope it is not you. Seek medical attention, as soon as you can.
C.evansPosts: 154

Re: Article on Eric Von Wade In El Defenzor Newspaper! 1/17/2005 4:04:28 PM
Interesting accusations! I do not get a chance to post here often but, I have never never heard EvW say anything that could be considered racist. I have listened to his radio show as much as possible for about 3 years now--so I guess I am a relative new-comer. All I have to say is that, from looking at the links provided for that hispanic publication. In my own humble opinion, I do not agree with anything THEY have so does THAT make me a racist? Best regards-C.Evans.

Eric Vo Wade v Homer Villarreal

EVW Posts: 321

Eric why do you use "Hispanic BIGOTS." 1/18/2006 10:04:32 AM Homer has not used the word "Anglo bigots" on the air. Why do you accusing him of something you are responsbile for? The issue of race or "racism" has not been in Homer's vocabulary. I think you have him all wrong. Yet you use it repeatedly when referring to "them." contradcition --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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EVW Posts: 321	Re: Eric why do you use ""Hispanic BIGOTS."" 1/18/2006 10:11:52 AM Listen closely Condot, Markx, Homer and the like, the reason I call Homor a Hispanic Bigot is because that''s what he is. Read a dictionary if you don''t know what a ""bigot"" means but of course you would run the risk of speaking from an educated position and the other Hispanic bigots you admire so much might challenge your ethnicity with terms such as ""sell-out"" or ""coconut"" or some other crap copied from radical black bigots. You and other trash like you are bigots because you blindly and zealously take positions based on skin color or ethnicity not facts, education or merit. You haven''t grown up mentally and you think the most moronic, juvenile antics are the coolest thing ever. You don''t just want to divide white from brown but you can''t stand a conservative Hispanic either. What you really can''t stand is the fact America isn''t Mexico and instead of becoming and loving America you want to make it like Mexico. You and that group of bigots are exactly what holds this country down. You and your ilk of bigots disgust me. You’re no different than the 1950''s Good O''le boys of Mississippi. Does that answer your question? The reson Homer doesn''t use the term is because some else hasn''t explanied it to him. I was temped to say that it''s because the term aplied primarily to Homer and your little click but you guys are know to fabricate or at the very least propagate complete fabrications when ever it serves your purposes so I''m sure we''ll hear the little toad take a shot at it soon.
HardcoreHarry Posts: 2050	Re: Re: Eric why do you use ""Hispanic BIGOTS."" 1/18/2006 10:24:30 AM Open, honest, and factual Eric. I am sure we will be hearing from the Dependzor unified cheerleading squad soon. They will have the same song and dance routine they have already displayed, kneepads at the read to genuflect at the order to their comandante el magnifico. Hardcore Harry
HardcoreHarry Posts: 2050	Re: Re: Re: Eric why do you use ""Hispanic BIGOTS."" 1/18/2006 10:29:33 AM Dhould read ""kneepads at the ready..."" I intentionally left out the ""y"" so I could use ""kneepads"" in another insult at the Crayola Commandos from El Dependzor. Yeah! That''s the ticket! Hardcore Harry
HardcoreHarry Posts: 2050	Re: Re: Re: Re: Eric why do you use ""Hispanic BIGOTS."" 1/18/2006 10:30:53 AM Heh I need more coffee this morning! Hardcore Harry
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	Keep it up . . . 1/18/2006 10:36:14 AM . . . and you will be like ole Anton! Ole Homer has been much more subdued lately. I don''t think he got the Mexican uprising he was lookin'' for.
condot Posts: 93	Eric you''ve called Homer: ""racist, bigot, homo, unAmerican, etc"" 1/18/2006 1:06:49 PM You are against everything you are standing for. In your latest post, why the disrespect for Homer by refering to him now as ""Homo(r)""? You need to return to level you were before. Why demonise him to the level of animal. I do not blame him if he fires back at you and us all. He has family and friends that read your ""crap"" and he doesn''t have to put up with your stink.
Cal Posts: 719	Re: Eric you''ve called Homer: ""racist, bigot, homo, unAmerican, etc"" 1/18/2006 4:34:04 PM Hey there Alpha Hotel :bugeye: Did you not see his reply about the use of the word ""HOMO""? Eric said it was a typo and that reason is good enough for the rest of us. Time for you to leave and don''t let the door hit you on the way out.
Wild Ape Posts: 1777	Cal, don''t confuse condolt with the truth 1/18/2006 4:45:14 PM I like the Alpha Hotel thing too. Made me laugh.
Markx Posts: 85	Eric, When has Homer used the words ""Coconut"" and ""traitor""? 1/18/2006 6:38:08 PM I don''t know where you have come with this stuff from. If you are reading someing into it; that is not fact or logic or reasonably consistent with who and what he is. I''ve listen to every show and even recorded them. Again, never has be used ""coconut"" nor called anyone ""traitor"".... Homer did tell Jenny that she did not have to ""overaccomodate"" a target audience to make her point. She did not have to sell out her family nor where she comes from to please another social stratum. She was merely reminding Jenny, not to forget her roots. The aroma of ""pinto beans"" (my words). If Jenny was Anglo, I would have point out the same thing. Don''t forget your humble beginning. Coconut? traitor? Those are your words Eric, very immature.
Markx Posts: 85	Eric, have we questioned why you use a hot pink hightlight when u post? 1/18/2006 6:48:36 PM Does the highlight equate with personal proclivities? Unmanly -It''s absurd to conclude that.
Jaime Kenedeno Posts: 1492	Eric if it is a typo..... 1/18/2006 8:51:08 PM it is surely in your best interest to edit it? This is not becoming of this website. I notice there was a thread deleted that itstruthtime did the same thing to Eric, I dont blame Eric for being fired up, but becoming indignant will not help. Dont cause yourself more problems. Cool down and approach this thing logically Eric. Once again I thank you for allowing me to stand up for myself in here. I am not on either side as I have interest in each of you and your causes. Condot called me a Yellow Belly Coward as well. He challenged me to a fight at Whataburger in Kingsville. Condot you are making matters worse and making a fool of yourself. I support Homer and Eric and 1440 KEYS.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Eric if it is a typo..... 1/19/2006 8:06:45 AM You cant support good and evil, cold and hot, right and wrong. Jaime, I have seen you mature and grow in character and intellectualy since you first arrived at this website. Don''t let others pull you down just because they share your ethinicity. Some of histories greatest monsters were great with kids, dogs, and were the life of any party. It didn''t make what they did or stood for any better.
Elwood Blues Posts: 120	Re: Re: Eric if it is a typo..... 1/19/2006 10:24:23 AM ""Don''t let others pull you down just because they share your ethnicity"" Umm..Jaime''s an anglo,Eric.He ""advocates"" for La Causa,South Texas Gnomes,invisible priests and is KFATSO''s bitter enemy (and has a signed 8X10 glossy of Homer hanging proudly in his living room (next to the framed picture of Che Guevara)..but he''s an anglo.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Re: Re: Eric if it is a typo..... 1/19/2006 10:29:38 AM Now that''s funny, I don''t care who you are! I just don''t believe him. If it''s true then I am at a loss for how he became so utterly misinformed.
Elwood Blues Posts: 120	Re: Re: Re: Re: Eric if it is a typo..... 1/19/2006 10:55:49 AM ""If it''s true then I am at a loss for how he became so utterly misinformed."" LOLOL...have you read many of his posts? The boy isn''t exactly all there..if you catch my drift. But,yes..it''s a fact he''s an anglo.There are several threadsters here that can confirm that.In fact..there are a few of us here who know his real name..(and it doesn''t end in a ""z"" or a vowel) Ask him yourself...he''ll tell you.He''s Homer''s token gringo.
Jaime Kenedeno Posts: 1492	All I am saying Eric...... 1/19/2006 4:18:52 PM is if it is a TYPO then it is in YOUR best interest to edit it. If that is WATT you meant then fine leave it be. I am anglo, my wife is Latina. This is not about skin color it is about the haves and the have nots. Elite v the little people. I fight with the little people as I am a little person myself. Who is Homer to me and I to Homer? This fight originated in Kingsville and has nothing to do with El Defenzor. I came to EL Defenzor after I found the message board while researching the net in the Advocacy of my family. El Defenzor became my medium to publicize the events that occurred. Then came a time when I became mal-alligned with El Defenzor and the Nueces County Medical Examiner. I found Eric''s message board as I was banned fro El Defenzor. Eric supported my right to free speech. Eric, I will always be grateful for your support during that time. I cannot see myself in the middle of this squabble. Elwood you are just JEALOUS. My words are being confirmed verified and bona-fide everyday by many at much higher levels. I dont need to keep on fighting as I have already established these postulates. WATT happened to ignoring ME? Your word is worthless. But then again, if you ignore ME then that would make you ignorant..... right?
EVW Posts: 321	Homer: ""racist, bigot, homo, unAmerican, etc"" and It''s All True! 1/19/2006 7:58:42 AM It''s called reality Mr. Condot. My family and friends read the crap Homer and his rag of a newspaper puts out. I''ve been putting up with the offensive lies and racial accusations of people like you and Mr. Homer for years while you hide under the slimy rock of anonymity. I sign my name to every statement I make and have done for over 11 years. It''s time those of you who live on racial friction do the same. When Homer Villarreal refuses to say he pledges allegiance to the United States of America and instead calls the Hispanic woman who does a ""sell-out"" that is by definition, un-American. Homer is against everything I stand for as an illegitimate race baiting bigot. I guess you would like it if I have the head of the Klu Klux Klan on my show every Tuesday? If the truth hurts Homer and you and others so much, maybe you should do something about who you are instead of getting angry at me for calling you on it. As far as my stink Condot, what are you going to do about it? If the rest of the coastal bend has had to endure the mentally retarded such as you, Markx and Homer making completely false claims in Homer''s publication rag then he''ll take alot more from me before it''s over and that goes for you too tough guy. Homer better not find himself in the radio station when I''m there or he''s going to be even more embarrased. At 9:01 AM Homer better be laying rubber.
condot Posts: 93	Eric, u says: Homer ""copied from racial black bigots""? 1/18/2006 6:56:00 PM Whose name are you implying? Jones. Be a man and say it.
condot Posts: 93	Eric, not Hispanic bigots, but only ""Black"" ones? 1/18/2006 6:57:56 PM It time you tell me to my face the truth.... yellow-belly coward.
Markx Posts: 85	Re: Eric, not Hispanic bigots, but only ""Black"" ones? 1/18/2006 7:14:12 PM Eric Von Wade you write above referrring to Homer and I (I personally have never posted on his board): ""You and other trash like you are bigots because you blindly and zealously take positions based on skin color or ethnicity not facts, education or merit."" How do your remarks reflect ""facts"" or ""education"" or ""merit."" A bit hypocrically you are, perhaps?
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Re: Eric, not Hispanic bigots, but only ""Black"" ones? 1/19/2006 8:28:55 AM Feel that sting, its called truth. You thought it was so funny when a bunch of people you work with called Jenny Trejo a Sell Out because she said she pledges allegiance to the United States of America. Those slackers followed Homer''s exact example. People like that are an enemy of the United States and therefore my enemy.
HardcoreHarry Posts: 2050	Calling Eric a yellow bellied coward... 1/18/2006 7:36:09 PM is not liable to win you many style points here on this forum. It did not work when you tried it on me and I highly doubt it will work on Eric. However, do not be surprised if you find yourself on the outside looking in if you keep this up Condot. Like the Captain said, if you use words like ""coward"" and ""yellowbellied"" here on a message board, what do you have left in the tank for real offenses?? Just be glad we are not living in the age when such words would have you answer those accusations on a real field of honor. What would you know about honor anyway? You are too busy giving Homer the Hoover treatment to know jack shit about honor, Condot. You just might be the first person booted off El Depndzor and the Eric Von Wade boards. You already have the honor of the former, it remains to be seen what happens with the latter. If you have trouble understanding what I just told you, try reading a fookin book once in a while! Hardcore Harry
condot Posts: 93	Re: Calling Eric a yellow bellied coward... 1/18/2006 8:05:21 PM I feel that drum beat. It calls me to action. It brings me to this website and to put out words that come from my heart. I cannot stand the politics of the day. I see both parties pandering to special interests and not to the voters. I have very little respect for the politicians of our day. Read Wild Ape''s message to homer on www.defenzor.net : Wild Ape: ""I feel that drum beat. It calls me to action. It brings me to this website and to put out words that come from my heart. ...I cannot stand the politics of the day. I see both parties pandering to special interests and not to the voters. I have very little respect for the politicians of our day. Trouble is Homer that someone has to take up the banner. If you are willing to be silenced then someone from the KKK will be happy to take your place and get his message across. I think we''ve all had enough of that."" Do you take those words back ""Wild Ape"" ??? I don''t take back mine either. It is not right what is being done to him by Eric.
HardcoreHarry Posts: 2050	Re: Re: Calling Eric a yellow bellied coward... 1/18/2006 8:28:35 PM Gonna have to buy Ape a round! If he got those pecock feathers of yours ruffled that much he must be doing something right! Hardcore Harry
condot Posts: 93	What Eric is doing to Homer is down right low, gutter level 1/18/2006 8:34:43 PM ""Merit, Education"" - how is Eric accomplishes such things?
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	Homer''s stock in trade . . . 1/18/2006 8:44:11 PM . . . is whining about being a poor Mexican. He tries to hang most of the blame on the evil gringo because they stole Texas from the Mexicans. Well, I see a lot of houses on Ocean Drive owned by Mexicans who succeeded dispite the gringos. When he sees someone like Jenni he has to brand them viendida to mask his own inadequacy.
skwardupntru Posts: 1446 &.src=pg">	To Continue in English.... 1/18/2006 8:55:57 PM Press two Hmmmmm Sounds a might familiar :bugeye:
condot Posts: 93	Homer has never called her ""vendida"" 1/18/2006 8:56:49 PM Vendida means ""you have already sold out"" in Spanish. ""No te vendas"" means ""Don''t sell out or overaccomodate who you are to others in order to fit in."" Semantics? Two differnt things. Apples (mansanas) and Oranges (naranjas). If I remember my Spanish correctly from High School.
condot Posts: 93	Jenni lives on ""Ocean Drive"", Curmy please... She''s unemployed and on 1/18/2006 9:00:21 PM humble means.
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	Did I say . . . 1/18/2006 9:05:17 PM . . . Jenni lived on Ocean Drive? Are there any Mexicans living on Ocean Drive. Actually, I think Homer actually said she was a sell out.
condot Posts: 93	Why would Homer envy her? He has 2 masters and plays some mean guitar? 1/18/2006 9:13:31 PM Homer never said she was a ""sell out."" Never, Curmy. He said don''t overaccomodate your principals and ""don''t sell out who you are."" He did not say, ""You are a sell out!"" Never. ""Don''t sell out who you are,"" is far from calling someone a ""vendida"" (sold and bought).
Jaime Kenedeno Posts: 1492	WATTS happened to Jenny.... 1/18/2006 9:22:59 PM where did she go? Did somebody censor her? Does her Saturday show have something to do with her not writing in this room? I can only speculate as to the reason as Homer is not writing in here either. Obviously this is Eric''s board and he can write whenever. Also, where is Bob? He does write in here. Are they being censored?
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	George W. Bush . . . 1/18/2006 9:35:45 PM . . . doesn''t post on here either. Doya figure he is being censored.
Jaime Kenedeno Posts: 1492	Bob and Jenny both have..... 1/18/2006 9:41:36 PM registered screen names here and have posted valid points of view pertaining to KEYS radio. Dubya, well..... he is your coffee mate. Maybe you need to consult with Caro;e Strayhorns son about that?
Jaime Kenedeno Posts: 1492	Bob and Jenny both have..... 1/18/2006 9:41:54 PM registered screen names here and have posted valid points of view pertaining to KEYS radio. Dubya, well..... he is your coffee mate. Maybe you need to consult with Caro;e Strayhorns son about that?
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	I''m havin'' a seance at the moment . . . 1/18/2006 10:10:45 PM . . . I could ask Jimmy Hoffa if you like.
Jaime Kenedeno Posts: 1492	Ask Catherine D''Unger..... 1/18/2006 10:19:22 PM She is the investigator who died (under mysterious circumstances) while working for our Nueces County Medical Examiner. Still under investigation.
Markx Posts: 85	Maybe Homer should not bring a guitar anymore, Eric goes puff 1/19/2006 1:55:27 AM Eric said there was nothing good in Robstown. Homer guitar playing showed its richness and priceless capital. The only question I said is why did homer skipped that little part in the spar spangled banner?
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Why would Homer envy her? He has 2 masters and plays some mean guitar? 1/19/2006 9:26:16 AM I heard Homer call Jenni a Sell-out more than once and you either missed it or are lying. Being a friend of Homer''s, I suspect the latter.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: What Eric is doing to Homer is Long Over Due 1/19/2006 10:36:08 AM If you live like trash somebody is eventually going to tell you that you stink. If you don''t like it, try taking a bath. (This is a metaphor for your character.) Any other questions? Ask the nearest adult.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: What Eric is doing to Homer is Long Over Due 1/19/2006 10:38:11 AM If you live like trash somebody is eventually going to tell you that you stink. If you don''t like it, try taking a bath. (This is a metaphor for your character.) Any other questions? Ask the nearest adult.
Wild Ape Posts: 1777	Why are you crying? 1/19/2006 8:11:22 AM What is to take back? I haven''t suddenly gained respect for politicians. I AM sticking up for hispanics moron. Why would I stop? I think Homer has changed his opinion on Atzlan and maybe can be turned on illegal immigration as well. If you think Eric speaks for the KKK then you are about as big an idiot as everyone on this forum (except Markx) thinks you are. I think what troubles you is that I haven''t pitched in with the crowd that wants to separate from America and shoot all the whitemen. My allegiance is still with America, not Mexico. Please by all means hold your breath and starve yourself until I switch over. If you are really interested condot then you should just listen to Eric''s show especially on Wednesdays. Eric is not a bigot. Homer has painted himself with his magazine and website. I think he is still forming who and what he is. If Eric ever said something bigoted I''d call him on it. If he began a racist show I wouldn''t tune in and I would no longer post here. Eric''s opinions haven''t changed, but the jury is still out on Homer. My Threadster friends who tune into his site are men whom I have great respect for. My hispanic friends help me understand things I do not get in their culture. Eric, and others may not understand the total meaning of La Raza. Their only exposure maybe that it is an anti-American movement. It is but it is not solely a separatist movement. For many it is just a rally point. Captain Corrales has an idea to make it an internal movement for a positive change. That is ''the Drum'' I listen to. These are sophisticated thoughts condot, probably too complicated for a cultural moron like yourself. Stick with One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish and build from there. Taking a post from a site that is totally out of context or place only adds to confusion. Keep the boards separate. My friends over there know whether or not I''m two faced and they haven''t said so, ergo, you are the divisive turd in the punchbowl not me.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Why are you crying? 1/19/2006 9:35:15 AM The only thing that matters is that this bigoted trash is anti-American, at that point they are due only that which this country affords it''s enemy. Nothing else.
Wild Ape Posts: 1777	Re: Re: Why are you crying? 1/19/2006 10:17:30 AM You''ve had more run ins with Homer Eric. I''m still holding my opinion on Homer but your words do carry weight with me. The Captain seems to think otherwise and has never voiced a racist point of view on this forum or privately. That is why I withhold judgement and check out things out for myself. I''m not questioning your credibility or integrity. This forum is at the place where the teeth of the gears of culture are grinding. The fact is that white men are no longer a majority in Corpus and it is a matter of time before this happens throughout Texas. As these cultures come together there will be a commonality of how they deal with one another. The same thing happened when Martin Luther King touched the hearts of white culture and things changed. Somewhere along the line his message has been lost. The leaders of the day are the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons who instead of looking at the merits of character have looked at the pigmentation and made it a sort of twisted business machine of hate. How can the civil rights movement shift from the I Have a Dream crowd to one that now wants segregation, wants people to be judged by the color of their skin, and who could care less about humanity? This could happen with the hispanic community too. The Captain Corrales crowd will no longer be heard or the Jenni''s will be marginalized. The Atzlan (hispanic KKK Atzlan that is)will be the dominant mindset among hispanics if this isn''t turned and we will be no better off than when the KKK was in power. It will just have an hispanic flavor is all. I''m with you on patriotism and I understand where you vehemence comes from. I want to see Atzlan hijacked into something positive. I want those who condone an open border to be exposed as the exploiters that they are. It is time the lefty-Mexico-first-America-sucks crowd gets a shower of cold reality.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Eric, not Hispanic bigots, but only ""Black"" ones? 1/19/2006 8:12:33 AM Who''s the one here not using their real name? You can come by the radio station and I think I can solve your problem unless you want to let me have your address?
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Eric, u says: Homer ""copied from racial black bigots""? 1/19/2006 8:10:37 AM A slightly educated man wouldn''t ask this question but since you did I''ll explain it to you. The ""black biggots"" I refer to started popularizing names like ""coconut"" back in the late ''60s and ''70s. Bigots like Al Sharpton, Luis Farrakhan ect. Carful, you might be learning too much and now your a ""sell out"" ""oreo.""
Markx Posts: 85	I admire Homer for not running to any of the civil rights organizations 1/19/2006 1:57:50 AM Eric, Homer does need anyone to stand against you. He can hold his own ground. It is not right what you did ERicu.
Wild Ape Posts: 1777	Re: I admire Homer for not running to any of the civil rights organizations 1/19/2006 7:47:16 AM Go take condot and Homer on a camping trip and get your Broke Back Mountain moment overwith. Pleease. Honestly, this much sucking up to your icon is revolting. Change it up or something, make a sonnet or write a biography and put it in A&E. Quit typing on kneepads.
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	Yeah, I can see it now . . . 1/19/2006 7:55:00 AM . . . Homer tellin'' LULAC that evil Eric called him a homo and told him to stick his guitar up his hiney. BWAHAHAHA!!! Homer ain''t sayin'' anything because he wants to stay on the radio . . . gringo radio.
Cal Posts: 719	Re: Yeah, I can see it now . . . 1/19/2006 9:13:00 AM Homer ain''t sayin'' anything because he wants to stay on the radio . . . gringo radio. Let Homer team up with Vicente Caranza :D. Those two would be a great pair.But then,Maybe Vicente is smart not to get involved with Homer :bugeye: Vicente has been rather quiet these last few years. ;)
EVW Posts: 321	Re: I admire Homer for not running to any of the civil rights organizations 1/19/2006 9:28:42 AM Did you let your child write the last post? Homer is trash and he can''t hold is own to a fight he won''t show up to. What a sad life when your hero is a looser.
Markx Posts: 85	Eric, So now u want to ""eliminate?"" the ""unAmerican"" Homer? 1/19/2006 9:46:21 AM You''re are using ""sick"" logic. To you, Homer is Al Queda, the Taliban, ""an enemy of the united states and must be dealt with accordingly,"" ""He is a monster"" because he loves his children?... Explain to me why Homer needs to be phased out like Al Queda and the Taliban. Don''t you realize Homer owns a flag too, but does not wrap up himself in it.
EVW Posts: 321	Re: Eric, So now u want to ""eliminate?"" the ""unAmerican"" Homer? 1/19/2006 10:01:20 AM He''s worse than a Terrorist. He plays like an American so he can drive suspicous, hateful wedge between Hispanic and Anglo, dividing America. Just look at the trash you''ll defend on his behalf. Years of outright lies printed as fact in a so-called paper that more often than not has no author''s name attached to the story. I truly pity the lack of natural intelligence those like you exhibit. And by the way, we don''t go to phsyical war with every enemy of the united states. Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending because you think it''s some sort of strategy? If I wanted to ""elimenate"" someone, I''d say so. Your the only one who didn''t get that.
Wild Ape Posts: 1777	Sedition 1/19/2006 10:36:20 AM Anyone who plots to separate America in an insurrection or who approves of such is a traitor. They are just as bad as the Taliban and should be shot. Hitler liked dogs and Aryan children too but he is still a monster. If there is ever an insurrection you count on me killing as many separatists as possible. There is a difference between talking about civil rights and civil war. Apparently Markx, you think they are one and the same. We don''t rewrite history here. I recall Homer saying that Jenny was a sell out. I seem to recall you saying it as well. I''ve seen you distort my posting on another board to paint me up as some sort of kiss ass. Eric calls you out and you don''t have enough spine to do any more than post a lie on his forum. You are the coward. You are the liar. I''ve seen your tactic before. You keep repeating the lie until the opposition quits responding then you herald it as true. This tactic is to discredit new or intermittant posters into thinking that Eric and his supporters are bigots. I have no doubts where your inspiration comes from CONdot and Markx (as in Karl Marx). Your lies have no traction. You give Robstown a bad name. You are the poster boy for why people shouldn''t commit incest.
condot Posts: 93	Eric, why makes u say Homer isTrash, treasoner, Taliban-like, 1/19/2006 11:12:54 AM You logic is: UnAmerican (like the Taliban) should be dealt accordingly Homer is unAmerican; Thus Homer needs ""is worst than a terrorist"" and should be dealt according. Note: Eric, if your assumption are not true about your premise, then your whole syllogism structure is wrong: it is a foundation of sand. Homer is as ""American as applepie."" He played the Star Spangle Banner as his opening piece with his guitar. How much more American can one be. As far as calling Jenny a ""sell out."" He never did. He said ""don''t sell out who you are"" (principles, roots etc). Eric, I can''t stand here and want you makes or encourage such threats against Homer. He is not ""white"" like us. He is ""American"" in his own way. IT is not up to us to decide how he should celebrate it. Eric, do not encourage attacks against Homer. His family was almost killed last week. I''m sure you heard about. Someone took the bolts off his back tires......... Eric you act of encouraging violence is dangerous..... Take off that flag off your back and come back to reality.
EVW Posts: 321	If the Jack boot fits... 1/19/2006 11:30:36 AM Homer is a liar, bigot and a phony. I don''t believe someone took the bolts off his wheel. Most likely the thick little man forgot to put them back himself and fabricated the story for attention. If someone did take the bolts off, it''s one of your type that lives, thinks, and operates in this low level base mentality. If you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas.. You too Condot have shown yourself to be dishonest as months ago you tried to blame the termination of your friend at Spohn Hospital on some of the postings on this website. It was clear your intentions were to intimidate me through fear of involvement in a lawsuit over the termination so that I would block the posts from the one making the incoherent accusations. Your dishonesty didn’t achieve what you wanted then and it certainly won’t now. I know your type and you are not fooling anyone.
curmudgeon Posts: 3382	Homer is more dangerous tha al Qaeda . . . 1/19/2006 11:15:48 AM . . . at least al Qaeda has the balls to attack us directly. Homer supports the cowardly invasion of the U.S. by Mexico through the back door. They will overthrow the government using the ballot box.
condot Posts: 93	Eric, so now you are saying all that sympatize with Homer be targeted? 1/19/2006 11:16:11 AM Eric, you have gone too far. Don''t dirty our flag. Eric Hoffer, the great American Patriot said, ""Patriotism can be a refuge for scondrels."" Don''t stain the flag with your twisted concept of what is an ""American.""
jws Posts: 47	Re: Eric, so now you are saying all that sympatize with Homer be targeted? 1/19/2006 12:49:26 PM Just where in this post did Eric say he wanted to ""target"" anyone. Man you are REALLY grasping for straws now. ""Don''t dirty our flag""???? What the hell is that supposed to mean? I have NEVER, EVER heard Eric say anything Un-American. And a bigot??? You must be absolutely insane. Either you don''t listen, or are just making up more lies. Which is it condot???

Judge Banales; He presided over largest class-action tort case in county

Judge Banales to seek 6th District Court term
He presided over largest class-action tort case in county
By Sara Lee Fernandez Caller-TimesJanuary 10, 2006
Judge J. Manuel Banales has announced that he will seek a sixth term for the 105th District Court.
"I still enjoy the work that I do as a judge," Banales said. "I believe that I am doing good work."


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Banales, an El Paso native, earned his law degree from the University of Houston's Law School in 1974.
He practiced law for 11 years before being elected to the bench in 1986 to succeed Vernon Harville, who retired.
Banales has presided over hundreds of cases in his five terms as a district judge in Nueces, Kleberg and Kenedy counties.
In 1995 he presided over the largest class-action toxic tort case in Nueces County, which involved about 9,000 Robstown residents and a chemical production company. In 2001, Banales gained national attention when he ordered 14 sex offenders on probation to place warning signs in their yards and on their cars, warning their neighbors of their presence.
He is a member of the Judicial Section of the State Bar, the Texas Center for the Judiciary, Inc. and the Judge Reynaldo G. Garza Chapter of the American Inns of Court.
Banales has established the South Texas Substance Abuse Recovery System and served as the organization's first president.
Banales is married to County Commissioner Peggy Banales and has five children.
Contact Sara Lee Fernandez
at 886-3767
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Can we find Common Ground??

HEJOLA!!!!!!!!
Posted on January 7, 2006 at 06:50:37 AM by Jaime Kenedeño

Jaime Kenedeno says: ICU

Ok here goes, maybe for one .... no "Fer Sure" there are some very powerful entities coming out "in the know"; "if you know WATT I mean?" It is working through the google blog but only accepting lefty blogs but claim it is a subjective thing? It gets those blogs high up on the google searches.

These guys (CHISME DEMOCRATS) are confirming many local "CONSPIRACY THEORIES" here in the BODY OF CHRIST.

We are talking about the whole rigaMERU in the South Texas Judiciary. They are naming names (at least divulging details on the one's who are their current opponents .... probably scorned, maybe at one time they were alligned) and discussing Judges BANALES, GREENWELL, VELA, KLAGER, APARICIO ("suicide"), Hunter, Sandra WATTS, Marisela Saldana, FRED JIMENEZ will WIN the 148th District Bench. Marisela let a man off who threw his baby across the room. His last name is Bernal. Some how I wonder why the Bernal's always are handled with kid gloves? At least the ones I am aware of. They speak of "KING MAKERS" while IMHO we must be "CHOICE MAKERS". Yes I mean to make a choice and choose but I also mean to recruiting new public leaders. The Guys who can bring in people to vote. groups of people addressing WATT their needs are (not only MIKAL"S needs). I am talking about (theoretically ponder) Oscar Ortiz or Cazalas having picnics and roundtable discussions in his community.

The same for Community Policing; it has worked thanks to the new direction and social studies conducted.

Sometimes these social studies have been used maliciously; but not in Judge WATTS case. (Must I need to file a FIA?). WATT about MIKAL? Did you get into your mama's purse boy. Maybe the electronic access portal? Or the remote Cameras? "I can see it coming in the air tonight OH LORD"

Next time you go to Havana give FIDEL my regards.

Hey Armando, are you there? DNC hispanic marketing is it not. Caller Times pictures in the ad. Dont even try to play me. That is wrong Mr G. If I am mistaken in your motives then you will appropriately QUANTUM MERUIT (that goes for all); am I correct? I know you work for Solomon but I ask that you recuse? Money isn't everything, especially when selling out my mine that is entrusted in and to you.

Money will not win this election. IDEAS, GOOD WILL, keeping commitments ENGAGING the PEOPLE & so many intangibles.

No spirit. These guys think they got the chit but they deleted the first thread.

They could not hang with that "COLD SHOWER of REALITY". It was pretty mild I thought. Anyway, I just thought I would let you know I found it. But they were in here first (EVW the CALLER & DEFENZOR).

They made it (CHISME) especially for KEYS RADIO as I suspect might be a biligual double team in Talk Radio. Not in the Valley either, right here. It involves other newspaper publications and is becoming very powerful. I am engaging them.

I want to alert you to the dirty tactics of conquer & divide (and divide & conquer) are already being staged and operations are ongoing. Lug bolts have been removed. Vehicles tampered with. Mysterious mail, Hate mail. People have died, been maliciously prosecuted, had JOB opportunities modified and many families have been blackballed and divided.

To the Valley holler if you can hear me.

WATT happened to JUDGE EDWARD APIRICIO. WATT cases did he oversee that might have contributed to his "suicide". Why was he stressed out?

WATT was over his head?

WATT other Judges intervened or replaced him.

WATT about Tony "TWO FER" and MIKAL in the big big ....huge FIRESTONE Case.

The Citgo case & Capelo, Mc Hughs, Gov Perry and the Healthcare? Not to forget the "use" of our State Rep Vilma Luna to convince TLR.

Who is TLR?

Nah dont worry bout them three tiny lil letters the dont mean nuthin'.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

That delegate "thingy" was WATT MIKAL really wanted.

That is WATT MIKAL would love YOU to think.

WATT is so significant about three little initials?

TLR

Think MIKAL still likes WATT is being written?

for you lefty and for you Chisme.

http://dannoynted1.blogspot.com/




WATTS doing the DIRTY WORK for MIKAL?

"IT" is WATTS doing the Dity Work for MIKAL.Leave MIKAL alone he is bufferred.

"IT" must be someone who:Is involved and leveraged in the upcoming election.

"IT" has created asymptomatic division and relinquishment of positions.

The 148th

The 94th

The Nueces Constitutional County BenchThe Nueces County Sherriff

The Corpus Christi Police Chief

"Solomoncito" stepping out as well??

Mark Skurka, Bobby Galvan, James Sales, Marisela Saldana, Fred Jimenez, Rose Vela, Colleen McHugh, Rick Perry, Tony Canales & Angelica Hernandez are a few names coming to my mind. Epi Ysassi ICU! Mr Rogen pay the bills! You too Ray Fernandez. Who will be your next "Boss of Bosses"?

Mr Skurka with all due respect I must ask you WATT (who) prompted you to change your mind?

IT is doing the Dirty Work.

WATT is up with thea certain sitting Judge, tickets and impropriety with a certain group of people.

If you are guilty; we will prove it and it will be due to WATT MIKAL has used YOU to do.
If he can take credit for "Making KINGS" then he can take credit for being a YANQUI.

The Border Wall is a huge waste of money materials and manpower. It is also an insult to many.

WATT Mexican officials are alligning with the MONEY to build the wall?

All above are Political Positions; even the CCPD Chief (CCPD Politics)
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South Texas Chisme

Saturday, December 31, 2005

Chisme Round Up

Ok folks try to keep up...

13th Court of appeals – Judge Rose Vela and former Judge Martha Huerta will file on Monday in Austin

The 94th Dist Court - Bobby Galvan will file on Monday (supported by M. Watts)

The 148th Dist Court - Marisela Saldana will file on Monday (supported by M. Watts)

Nueces County Judge - a new last minute candidate will file late Monday

County Court at Law #4 - 2 new candidates will file on Monday

County Chair - 2 new candidates will file on Monday

Whew… let the games begin.

(**** Update ****)

Bobby Galvan resigned yesterday as assistant U.S. Attorney for C.C.

We will negate the Mikal Watts dollars and Tony the Two Fer's nickels.

And their off!Posted on January 4, 2006 at 01:13:06 AM by Jaime KenedeñoArea races January 3, 2006 Candidates who have filed for the Democratic party primary: U.S. Representative, District 27 Solomon P. Ortiz State Representative, District 32 Juan Garcia State Representative, District 33 Vilma Luna State Representative, District 34 Abel Herrero Judge, 13th Court of Appeals, Place 2 Frederico "Fred" Hinojosa Judge, 13th Court of Appeals, Place 4 Esther Cortez Nelda Vidaurri Rodriguez Judge, 13th Court of Appeals, Place 5 Gina Benavides Errlinda Castillo Judge, 94th District Court Bobby Galvan Angelica Hernandez Judge, 105th District Court Manuel Banales Judge, 117th District Court Sandra Watts Judge, 148th District Court Fred Jimenez Marisela Saldana Judge, 319th District Court Robert Zamora Nueces County Judge Larry Olivarez Judge, County Court at Law No. 1 Robert Vargas Judge, County Court at Law No. 2 Lisa Gonzales Judge, County Court at Law No. 3 Hector De Pena Jr. Joe Flores John Martinez Mark Skurka Michele Villarreal-Kuchta Judge, County Court at Law No. 4 Hector Rene Gonzalez Luis Octavio Gutierrez James "Jim" Klager Judge, County Court at Law No. 5 Carl Lewis District Clerk Patsy Perez Nueces County Clerk Diana Barrera Nueces County Sheriff Pete Alvarez Joe "J.B." Ballesteros Mark Cantu David Farias Robert "Bobby" Longoria Jimmy Rodriguez Nueces County Commissioner Pct. 2 Betty Jean Longoria Isabel Noyola-Martin Justice of the Peace, Pct. 1, Place 2 Henry Santana Justice of the Peace, Pct. 1, Place 3 Robert "Bobby" Balderas Epifanio "Eppy" Farias Justice of the Peace, Pct. 2, Place 2 Carolyn Moon Justice of the Peace, Pct. 3 Adolfo Contreras Betty Schroeder Justice of the Peace, Pct. 5, Place 2 Hermilo "Milo" Pena Jr. Nueces County Democratic Chair Joe Benavides Alex Garcia Jr. John M. Kelley Joel Mumphord Jerry J. Trevino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Candidates who have filed for the Republican party primary: State Representative, District 32 Gene Seaman Judge, 13th Court of Appeals, Place 2 Rose Vela Judge, 94th District Court James Sales Judge, 148th District Court Guy Williams Judge, 319th District Court Tom Greenwell Nueces County Judge Loyd Neal Judge, County Court at Law No. 3 Juan Reyna Judge, County Court at Law No. 4 David Jones District Clerk Pedro Cavazos Nueces County Sheriff Fred Ballenger Jim Kaelin Nueces County Commissioner Pct. 4 Chuck Cazalas Justice of the Peace, Pct. 2, Place 2 Larry G. Cox Justice of the Peace, Pct. 4 Duncan Neblett Jr. Nueces County Republican Chair Michael Bertuzzi Joel Yowell

Not only Bush, Rove, Armstrong but top DNC ARCHITECTS & Powercrats know .....Posted on January 5, 2006 at 01:31:45 AM by Jaime Kenedeñowho we are. Some call us future "KING MAKERS" There is only one KING I am his ACE. Any other King including Richard is a FAUX king. I will never be used against him. More concisely we are Transparent Empire Makers. Thus we make the emperors nakedness public information so the next emperor doesnt get duped. We negate the money. We will negate the Mikal Watts dollars and Tony the Two Fer's nickels. Who will uphold the office once they get there and not sell out? Soon it wont be an option!

Interesting . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 10:43:20 AM by El Vato Loco . . . Democrat candidates 78% Mexican 2% Black and 20% gringo, Republican 73% gringo 27% Mexican. I predict just about a clean sweep for Mexicans in Nueces Country elections.

I see ......Posted on January 5, 2006 at 01:44:50 AM by Jaime Kenedeñoyou did the MATH LOL

Re(1): Interesting . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 06:22:35 PM by cipherAnd I predict it will be hot in Nueces County... Dang are we geniuses or what...

Can you imagine . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 07:29:44 PM by El Vato Loco . . . the squeal we would hear if one third of the population of Nueces County was Mexican and all the elected officials were gringos. Racism!

Re(1): Can you imagine . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 07:43:50 PM by dannoynted1sound kinda bitter loco

What is bitter . . .Posted on January 4, 2006 at 07:53:07 PM by El Vato Loco . . . about that. It is merely a statement of fact and history. Can you remember "Hispanic" districts created so that Mexicans would be elected to public office? Can you envision gringo districts? I don't vote, I ain't runnin' for public office. Y'all can elect monkeys to run Nueces County for all I care.

Re(1): What is bitter . . .Posted on January 4, 2006 at 07:54:55 PM by dannoynted1nah your redistricting fiasco is goin' to be ya'lls downfall

How dare the Republicans . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 08:24:57 PM by El Vato Loco . . . to redistrict to favor Republicans, wait . . . didn't the Democraps do the same thing when they was runnin' the state? And what is this y'all chit. Did the Anarchist Party suddenly gain power while I wasn't payin' attention?

Actually . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 09:58:23 PM by El Vato Loco . . . I calls myself a teacher. What do you tinfoil hat wearin' folk call yourselves. I ain't mastered the art of havin' a conversation with myself, yet.

Re(1): How dare the Republicans . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 09:46:58 PM by dannoynted1this from an educator?

Enough of your ....Posted on January 4, 2006 at 11:21:00 PM by Jaime Kenedeñodisrespect Curmy. We are neither republican nor Democrat. This election (to us)is about finding two people for each position one from each party and factually comparing the pros & cons. I think that is what an objective independent publication should practice. Rose Vela ??? Is she an new breed ? a republicrat?

Rose Vela . . . Posted on January 5, 2006 at 00:55:50 AM by El Vato Loco . . . is smart enough to realize that to be elected to statewide public office she will have to be a Republican. If the KKK were running Texas she would join the KKK. Simple!

Rose Vela a Republicrat . . . Posted on January 5, 2006 at 02:15:01 AM by Jaime Kenedeñobut is that not a positive for South Texas?? Remember we have Valley Democrats who ally with Mikal Watts. Yellow Dogs or different breed? Then we have the weakening "tire de la palanca democrática" of Solomon and Rene Rodriguez (that Tony "TWO FER" Canales chose to divide). Thus we have a Valley Alliance that includes the "Yellow Dogs" and the Old Coat Tails of Dr Hector. TWO FER allied with Mikal WATTS during the Firestone Litigation in Filemon Vela's Court. For Rose Vela to step to the Republican Label brings the disillusioned Democrat with her but she too must be disillusioned with a select faction of South Texas Democrat. This is a Mikal Watts trait. Finding the right intangible to liase with the Republican reasonable and therfore "alliable". A meeting of the minds his dollars can buy. Dont waste your money Mr WATTS. If you do then do it in a press conference and through the proper channels. JUST BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THEIR ELECTION CAMPAIGN DOES NOT MAKE THEM INDENTURED TO YOU AND YOUR AGENDA. There are no ifs when you donate not before not after. You support them because they have certain platforms. Not because they are going to win and you want to be able to tell them WATT to do.

What you term talking to myself....Posted on January 4, 2006 at 11:24:58 PM by Jaime Kenedeñois what most Newspapers call writing articles. except here I write and others have the opportunity to critique. Much of WATT I write in here ends up out there. And everyone knows it.

When I have my morning chat . . . Posted on January 4, 2006 at 11:58:00 PM by El Vato Loco . . . with Dubya I will give him a heads up so he can look for some of your wisdom before it ends up in the New York Times.

Dubya knows exactly who Jaime Kenedeño is......Posted on January 5, 2006 at 00:54:35 AM by Jaime KenedeñoAnd you mean Washington post don't you? Just think if we alligned. You know you bend a little & I bend a little and our alliance's network & the network of the old South Texas "tire de la palanca democrática". We get rid of ole Solomon. Kick Rick Perry out of the Governor's mansion.

I can only hope . . .Posted on January 5, 2006 at 01:01:38 AM by El Vato Loco . . . Dubya doesn't know who I am or care, lest the CIA be listening in on my phone conversations or knocking on my door. If you become governor I want to become Secretary of Motorcycle Transportation.

I will never....Posted on January 5, 2006 at 03:00:55 AM by Jaime Kenedeñobe governor. But we can make the right person Governor.

You know better than that Curmy.. . .Posted on January 5, 2006 at 02:18:06 AM by Jaime KenedeñoThey are on you like flies on sh/t. We are famous at their club!

Re(1): You know better than that Curmy.. . .Posted on January 5, 2006 at 02:22:43 AM by dannoynted1"I wanna be an air force ranger" as sung by judd nelsons character in "the breakfast club"

Why were we not invited per Defenzor as before Mr Kaffie?Posted on January 1, 2006 at 05:22:16 AM by Jaime KenedeñoPolitical Pulse: 12.25.05 December 25, 2005 Democrats meet, greet at Olivarez fundraiser Last Friday night, Charles Kaffie and George Finley hosted some of the county's top Democrats at Kaffie's art-filled Ocean Drive manse to fete and fundraise for Democrat County judge candidate Larry Olivarez. Talking politics in the crowd were District Judge Sandra Watts, her son, Mikal Watts, County Court at Law Judge Marisela Saldana, former port commissioner Tony Pletcher, his wife Laura and about 25 others with checkbooks large enough to kick in some dough. Judge Watts makes a family correction One of Olivarez's fledgling campaign staff bounced up to Judge Watts and said. "Nice to meet you Judge! I just met your husband Mikal." Watts laughed and explained that Mikal is her son. Attendees call Rodriguez 'Sheriff' Several in the crowd at Kaffie and Finley's reception shook hands with Sheriff's Chief Deputy Jimmy Rodriguez and said "Hello,Sheriff." Last Saturday afternoon at a bike giveaway program at the Solid Rock Worship Center, Rodriguez said he hoped to be sheriff. Nearly a week later Rodriguez said in a statement, that if he is appointed interim sheriff he will not run for the office. "The employees of this department and the citizens of this community deserve to have someone serving out this appointment who is only motivated by a desire to maintain the continuity and stability and the duties and obligations of this office." Shamsie shows humor with some gag gifts After a short lecture on the importance of watching the budget, County Judge Terry Shamsie handed out Christmas presents to the county commissioners, much to their amazement. "You're so cheap, judge," Commissioner Chuck Cazalas said. "I'm surprised." Commissioner Betty Jean Longoria unwrapped her package carefully, showing off the frugality she says she learned from Shamsie. "I'm trying to save the wrapping paper," she said. "I learned that from you." Shamsie was apparently practicing thriftiness as well - aside from a silver compact for Longoria, the gifts were all gags, and a couple of them were recycled. Commissioner Peggy Banales got a purple T-shirt with Schwing emblazoned across the front. Shamsie said he got it from Banales' predecessor, Frank Schwing. Commissioner Oscar Ortiz unwrapped a can of bug spray that Shamsie said would come in handy during budgeting time. "To keep all the ticks off the budget," Shamsie said. And for Cazalas, the lone Republican on the court, Shamsie gave used copy of Bill Clinton's autobiography, "My Life." "I want you to read about a real leader," Shamsie said. Cazalas promised to read as much as he could stomach. Shamsie plans the talk of several insiders When County Judge Terry Shamsie announced that he would not seek reelection, he was quick to say that he was not closing the door to run for another political office. For the past two weeks, the talk at the courthouse has been that Shamsie is gunning for the position of District Judge Sandra Watts, who has not drawn another opponent. Watts' son is Mikal, the powerful, big money lawyer behind several key candidates, who also recently financed a poll that put Shamsie behind Loyd Neal in the county judge's race. Watts' political camp is saying the numbers and the poll angered Shamsie. Shamsie was not taking calls late this week, but insiders close to his political camp including Mack Rodriguez say Shamsie was not mad at the poll and that he is not likely to take on Watts or anyone else this political season. "I don't think it will happen," Rodriguez said. "It would be easier for him to stay in and run for county judge. He is worn out. I think he is just going to take a break and stay out and catch his breath." But businessman and Democrat politico George Finley, who has remained one of Shamsie's closest allies, said Watts could be in Shamsie's sights. "Anything is possible," he said. "All I can tell you is that it is the general consensus of those who know and love Terry is that he is a little bit wacky. And nothing would surprise us. Me or Fil (Filemon Vela) and Rose (District Judge Vela) or anybody." Watchers keep eyes open for Vela's plans There's a big announcement coming from District Judge Rose Vela's court on January 2 that has judiciary watchers guessing. There has been speculation that Vela will step down in early January and be replaced by Republican powerbroker and attorney Colleen McHugh, who was recently named to the University of Texas Board of Regents by Governor Rick Perry. Vela wants to run for the 13th Court of Appeals, according to friends of Vela and her husband Filemon. "Rose is not stepping down," said George Finley, a close friend and political ally. "She is seriously contemplating running for the appellate court. Although they consider themselves to be friends with Colleen, they have not had any conversations about Colleen getting the governor's appointment to take Rose's place." Finley pointed out that McHugh, who recently left Bracewell Giuliani, is his personal labor attorney. "Although politically she could win if she were running, even though she is a Republican," he said. Judge Hunter listed among nation's greats District Judge Jack Hunter is in esteemed company this week after his inclusion in the 60th Diamond Edition of Marquis Who's Who in America. Hunter is listed along with President George W. Bush, Sen. Hillary Clinton, televangelist Joel Osteen, actress Eva Longoria, entertainers Cher and Madonna, and hip hop star Missy Elliott. The publication recognizes 109,000 accomplished people based on position and accomplishment. Political Pulse is written and compiled by Caller-Times politics reporter Jaime Powell. This week's contributors include Powell and Brandi Dean. Have a tip? Contact Powell at 886-3716 or HYPERLINK mailto:powellj@caller.com powellj@caller.com

Tony Canales Atty for Firestone, Mikal Watts Atty for Victims, Fil Vela Judge... HUM????Posted on January 1, 2006 at 06:04:34 AM by Jaime KenedeñoMcAllen jury deliberating Firestone case BY LYNN BREZOSKY Associated Press Writer McALLEN, Texas — Jurors began deliberating Tuesday in a $1 billion lawsuit against Bridgestone/Firestone Inc. after hearing lawyers for the family of a paralyzed woman compare the company’s tires with mass murderer Timothy McVeigh. Firestone lawyers instead blamed the crash on Ford Motor Co., which made the Explorer sport utility vehicle in which the 39-year-old mother of three was riding. U.S. District Court Judge Filemon Vela gave the nine-member jury a 20-count charge to guide its deliberations, which lasted less than two hours and were scheduled to resume Wednesday. The judge asked jurors to determine whether the Firestone Wilderness AT tire had a manufacturing defect because of poor design and negligence. “This tire has killed more people than Timothy McVeigh. That is the awesome nature of the tragedy,” Mikal Watts, a lawyer for victim’s family, said in a closing argument. More than 200 deaths and 800 injuries in the United States have been blamed on Explorers rolling over after a tire tread separation involving a Firestone tire. Bridgestone/Firestone has settled more than 150 cases. “I wish at times the law would allow me to take this axle and beat these people up,” said another of the family’s lawyers, Tab Turner — referring to Firestone officials. “This is the day the American people can stand up and tell Firestone we’re not going to take it.” Firestone attorneys closed their case by continuing to argue that faulty design of the Ford Explorer made tires lose their tread. They said any other vehicle would not have rolled over after a similar tire failure. Lead Firestone attorney Knox Nunnally used the last minutes of the trial to present internal Ford correspondence dating to 1988 that he said showed the auto maker knew early on about faulty design of the Explorer. Nunnally said the correspondence showed high fatality rates in rollover crashes involving its Bronco II, the forerunner to the Explorer. The documents show that even company test drivers had difficulty handling the Explorer, he said. “It is their job,” Nunnally said, referring to the injured woman’s family, “to prove with a preponderance of evidence that the tire was defective. We believe they have not yet done that.” Firestone attorney Tony Canales suggested that the jury should find Ford liable for $6.5 million in damages — even though Ford is not a defendant, having settled out of court for $6 million. During testimony in the eight-day trial, Firestone officials said that tread separations are common but rarely cause the kind of rollover accident that left Marisa Rodriguez paralyzed last year. Lawyers for Dr. Joel Rodriguez attacked the final Bridgestone/Firestone witness as a retired company loyalist whose job in court is to dodge blame for faulty tires. Watts, one of the Rodriguez lawyers, cited recent cases in which witness James Gardner blamed driver error in Explorer rollovers involving tread separations. Now, Watts said, Gardner is arguing that Ford Motor Co. is solely at fault for rollovers involving tread separations. Watts said that differs from a Mississippi deposition in which Gardner testified Explorers “do not have a propensity to roll over.” “That testimony took place Dec. 15, 1998 — before you started fighting with one another,” Watts said, referring to a public rift between Ford and Bridgestone/Firestone. Gardner said he “had always been under the impression that there were problems with the Explorer,” but that he wasn’t convinced until seeing a study commissioned by Bridgestone/Firestone after his 1998 deposition. He said he wanted to show jurors that an object, perhaps a baseball, caused the tire to fail and that the product had no defects when it left Bridgestone/Firestone’s Decatur, Ill., plant in 1997. Holding pieces of the Rodriguezes’ rear right tire, Gardner said the inner tire’s smoothed surface was a result of friction caused by prolonged rubbing against the loose outer tread. After about 1,000 to 4,000 driving miles, he said, the tread finally separated on the day of the accident. Bridgestone/Firestone lawyers say that tread separations are common and that Explorers roll over because of design flaws that prompt panicked drivers to oversteer, causing the vehicle to tip over. But Rodriguez’s attorneys say drivers wouldn’t have to react if the tires didn’t fail first. They say Bridgestone/Firestone knew how to fix its defective tires. “I guess what you’re trying to say is, ‘If our tire runs over a baseball, we’re not responsible,”’ Watts said. Rodriguez, a doctor from the South Texas town of Pharr, sued the tire manufacturer after his wife was left brain-damaged and paralyzed following the crash. Rodriguez’s lawyers are trying to prove that Bridgestone/Firestone knew tire tread separation was a problem before it recalled 6.5 million tires last summer.

So, we are supposed to be...Posted on January 2, 2006 at 02:09:08 AM by Jaime Kenedeñoalright with corruption, greed, love of avarice and exploitation because it is just "Mexican Politics"? I believe it is YANQUI Mexicans who use their own. They learned it from the Ole Patron Politics. Use the Mexicans for their voting influence one day every two or four years. Is that the way we should let it stay? Not. It is the undermining of the Judiciary, Legislative and Executive branches of OUR govt with lots & Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. But they are criminals just like De Lay, Hugo Berlanga Kay Bailey and on and on and on......

Jeff Montgomery is Barbara Black & Mikal Watts Political Consultant ranked #5Posted on December 27, 2005 at 00:11:12 AM by Jaime Kenedeño5. Jeff Montgomery Montgomery & Associates Jeff Montgomery has been in the middle of the bitter infighting among state House Democrats in the primary elections this year - but he's not a typical Texas Democratic Party in crowd member - and he marches more often to his own beat than he does to the party line. That might make him have to work a little harder than the state party's consulting establishment for the business he gets doing media and research for political candidates. But it might also force him to try to be a little better at the job than some state party insiders who take their share of the pie more for granted - and he has as many or more awards to show for his work than most consultants in town. He helped State Rep. Aaron Peña defend his Rio Grande Valley state House seat this year against a well-armed primary opponent with strong business support - and he handled the consulting duties for former Rep. Tracy King as he prevailed in a rematch against State Rep. Timoteo Garza for the Southwest Texas seat that changed hands two years ago. Montgomery produced former House Education Chairman Paul Sadler's media in the special state Senate election in Northeast Texas - and the Democrats came close to an upset despite unprecedented GOP firepower for a legislative campaign. In addition to his work in politics, Montgomery has conducted public opinion surveys for a diverse range of corporate and public clients including Mikal Watts' law firm and the University of Texas System. He's made some Republicans mad with polls that he initiated on his own. Despite the relatively independent nature, he's handled some direct mail and phone banks for the state Democratic Party in recent years. His firm, Montgomery & Associates, last year added several Pollie awards from the American Association of Political Consultants to its collection of honors including first-place in bilingual television advertising for a spot on the Cameron County judge race and third place in the same category for a Barbara Canales Black ad in her state Senate campaign. Interesting read (full story below). http://www.capitolinside.com/consult2004-nm.htm

Here is one from YOUR"S TRULY, El Defenzor's Own Homero.Posted on December 26, 2005 at 11:43:57 PM by Jaime KenedeñoIs MIKAL WATTS, the founder of the Good Government Political Action Committee, Organizing To Help His Mom Turn Republican? ---------------------<>--------------------- Research Indicates Many Contributors Are Hardcore Republicans – With Grudges Against Democrats --------------------------------------- Corpus Christi, TX – The Watts Law Firm founded by Mikal Watts is listed by the Texas Ethics Commission as being the organization in charge of the political action committee known as the Good Government PAC. This political organization has paid to discredit state Rep. Jaime Capelo, Democrat-Corpus Christi, via billboards and Bus Stop advertisements. When one of the contributors (who has affirmed his political affiliation with the Republican Party) was asked by the Defenzor why he contributed to the PAC, he responded: “My intention is to expose corruption within the Democratic Party!” The shocking news is that many of the names who appear as donors/contributors of the mentioned PAC are not only trial lawyers but high ranking Republicans or activists in South Texas and one is even a member of the Texas Republican Executive Committee. Political Scandal Unveiled? The following information was obtained from the Quorum Report, an online Texas political newsletter; it confirms reports that the Good Government PAC, that has been responsible for a blitz on negative paid political advertisement targeting Capelo. Contributors to the Good Government PAC that appear on the list: Paul Altheide (Corpus Christi), $50; Richard Anger (Corpus Christi), $50; Antoinette Atteberry (Orange Grove), $50; Bill Bates (Corpus Christi), $50; Tracy Bates (Corpus Christi), $50; Jim Bordden (Corpus Christi), $50; Richard Bowers (known Republican of Corpus Christi), $50; Lance Bruun (Corpus Christi, sits on the Executive Committee of the Texas Republican Party), $50; Amado Contreras (Dario Barga’s Brother?), $25; Dora Contreras (Dario Barga’s Sister?), $25; Clark Flato (Corpus Christi), $50, Adalberto Gonzalez (Corpus Christi), $40; Alfonso Gonzalez (Corpus Christi), $50; Dr. Ron Him (McCallen), $50; Javir Juarez (Corpus Christi), $50; Cynthia Coronado (San Antonio), $50; Mrs. Albert Dominguez (Corpus Christi former support of Barbara Canales Black for State Sentate), $25; Richard Dupriest (Corpus Christi), $50; William Durrill (name sure sounds familiar in Corpus Christi), $50; Dr. Kery Feferman (San Antonio), $50; Maria Orozco (Corpus Christi), $25; Mayra Orozco (Corpus Christi), $25; Jane Quiroz (campaign manger for State Representative Vilma Luna), $50; Allen Ray (linked with Barbara Canales-Black and a native of Rivera?), $50; Roberta Maymond, $25; Linda Laws-Pate (relate to Jaime Capelo’s former Republican opponent?), $50; C.E. May (known Republican of Sarita, TX) Jr.; Leonard May (Sarita – known Republican), $50; Joe McComb (former County Commissioner and failed Republican candidate for County Judge), $50; Reynaldo Moreno (Corpus Christi),, $25; Alicia Rodriguez, $25; Andres Rodriguez, $50; The Edwards Law Firm (trial lawyers), $50,000; Joyce Turcotte (Kingville), $50; Watts Law Firm (the PAC’s governing entity), LLP, $50,000; James Whitten (Sinton), $25. The above list clearly indicates that the Good Government Political Action Committee has a non-Democratic Party element and is funded by interest parties that want to unseat traditional Democratic Party politicos have a vested interest in unseating, essentially progressive politi-cians espousing an Hispanic-oriented cause. The billboards aiming propaganda darts at Capelo, if funded by the above parties, clearly indicate that they are not representative of the Hispanic community at large who for the most part has to carry the burden of poverty and unfortunate education and for the most part have meager resources for health care. The Good Government PAC is paying about $1,000 per month for the billboard advertisements allow the highways and about $50 a month for the 50 or so bus bench advertisements. “Vote No to Jaime Capelo" – this is the message put out by the group who is headed by Mikal Watts, whose mother serves as a District Judge – i.e., Sandra Wattts. A known Republican Party contributor to the PAC told the Defenzor: “I feel that the billboard should have included another statement – ‘The Democratic Party is corrupt.’” Why then is the traditional media not reporting on the charged vested interests of the Good Government PAC? Watts, many politic observers in the region believe is targeting Capelo not so much for supporting legislation that restricts the amount of funds that plaintiffs can amass in medical malpractice civil actions, but due to the fact that his mother was not supported politically this politico. Watts, an email release by Capelo during a recent deposition, shows the animosity has he carries against those that abandoned his mother. Watts goes as far as to insist the employees of the law firm he is affiliated with to adopt a political posture against Capelo. Capelo has filed report with law enforcement forces about four months ago accusing Watts of making bullying remarks against him. Such romantic quackeries of politics reflect irrational thinking that is spilling over into the Hispanic community. Watts seems to have hitched horses with forces that do not ring with sincerity when it comes to supporting progressive political measures in favor of the loyal Democratic Party factions in El Pueblo Hispano. Political expediency? There is a Mexicano saying: “No existen los tiempos malos, lo malo es el hombre” (Bad times do not exist, what is wrong is man). Some political observers believe that if Mikal Watts fails in his attempt to unseat Capelo and discredit what has been referred to as La Clica of the Democratic Party, he will urge his mother – Judge Sandra Watts – to run Republican next time around. The following information (and interviews with some that appear on the list) also seems to reflect that State Representative Vilma Luna (who is represents the Watts Law Firm also) has strong links with Republican leaders in the region. There is another saying in the Hispanic community: “Cuan grande seria el hombre si no fuese tan arrogante” (How great man would be, were he not so arrogant). Watts there is no doubt about it is capitalizing on the conflict involving Capelo and Attorney Rene Rodriguez in three civil cases interconnected to the $100,000 check. Recently in a deposition, Rodriguez cleared Capelo of any wrongdoing by claiming asserting the mentioned check was written in error. However, Watts and his organization are adamant of describing it as a kickback for bringing an arrangement in a refinery lawsuit. During the mentioned deposition of Capelo, Attorney Tony Canales (Barbara Canales-Black’s father), used the words “Let’s finish him” (referring to taking Capelo’s deposition). Mafia language? Or did he borrow the phrase from the video game Mortal Kombat – “Finish him! Finish him!” – whatever the case, it sure was unprofessional. Terry Arnold, the lone Republican candidate has a lot to gain from the efforts of the Good Government PAC and Watts’ indignation – it is a resonant cause to Arnold’s campaign. Some argue that not only Capelo will be victimized by the PAC group, but other Hispanic politicos as well. Even Nueces County Commissioner Oscar Ortiz’s opponent, Maria Zarate, has been sponsored by attorneys affiliated with State Representative Vilma Luna and Sandra Watts such as William Bonilla and Tony Canales and Albert Huerta. The Watts Law firm was founded by Mikal C. Watts. Their website reads/brags: “…(The firm is) nationally recognized as one of two firms leading the nationwide claims against Bridgestone/Firestone and Ford. His litigation efforts involving Chrysler minivan liftgate latches; General Motors fuel system integrity; and improper maintenance of commercial trucks have been chronicled nationwide. He (Mikal Watts) tried the country's first case over recalled Sulzer hip implants with a jury award of $15,500,000. He won the first plaintiffs' case involving the withdrawn diabetes drug Rezulin with a jury award of $43,000,000. His $5,400,000 verdict involving improper propane distribution has been chronicled statewide, focusing on the importance of compliance with Texas Railroad Commission regulations.” The Watts Law Firm has offices in Corpus Christi, San Antonio, McAllen, Brownsville, and Houston. In Corpus Christi, the firm is located in Tower II Building on the 14th Floor at 555 North Carancahua Street. http://freewebs.com/defensornews/watts022404.htm

Re(1): Here is one from YOURPosted on December 26, 2005 at 11:48:42 PM by Jaime Kenedeño10/18/03 Doctors Acting As Politicos Submit Letter To The Corpus Chriti Caller-Times And Even Distribute It In The Nueces County Community ----------<>---------- Nueces County, TX -- Twenty doctors have signed a letter that is included at the end of this comentario. The letter not only shows implicit and explicit support for the career politico State Represenative Jaime Capelo, D-Corpus Christi, but the document goes as far as to ask District Court Sandra Watts to remove herself from a case in which Capelo has been accused of taking a $100,000 rebate from Attorney Rene Rodriguez. The Doctors are clearly now functioning as politicos attempting to influence both the legal and legislative system to discourage malpractice claims (i.e., personal lawsuits?) via legislation and other matters. Representative Capelo and his chief of staff -- Humberto "Bert" Quintanilla, seems to have, for expedient reasons, engaged in a reposturing campaign, alligning themselves with a politically oriented organization that resulted in a previous election in the ousting of District Judge Martha Huera (wife to Capelo's Chief of Staff). The voters of Nueces County should be able to see beyond the trees of the forest and know that Capelo is constructing a fort to promote his own interests and protect his personal career via his new political allies. Capelo defied the court this week when he did not submit all the bank and financial statements and deposition statements demanded by Judge Watts' Court. The doctors, which are serving as a political lobbying force, are pointing out that an email that was supposedly drafted by Watts' son -- Mikal Watts -- should be used as a reason that she recuse herself from the case. Mikal supposedly shared the email with his staf that talks about his political preferences...Not a crime, all of us have them. The pernicious effect of the political doctors is not inspired by humanitiarian or humanistic duty but by the mighty dollars they will not have to pay in insurance premiums. Doctor welfare? In the mist of stirring events, Capelo has clearly defeated what he originally stood for -- or at least gave lip service to in the past: he is now the political plan and map and malleable dough of doctors who want to play politicos; doctors who clearly have overstepped their bounds and want to disrupt resonance ideals of justice. The political doctors should be held accountable by the voters; they should send a message to Capelo this election around. As the old saying goes: "Justice is only spell correctly the oppressed; because the oppressor (clearly the poltiical doctors in this case who are defending someone accused of legal malpractice -- so to speak) spell justice....JUST US." Read letter submitted by the doctors who want to play politicos (it includes signatures): Letter (dated Oct. 15) reads: ...................."Jamie Capelo is our enemy" - this is a direct quotation from a letter dated 3/29/03 (that appeared in the Caller-Times) and written by Mikal C. Watts, the well-known plantiff attorney. This only emphasizes the persecution representative Jamie Capelo has suffered these last several months because he has represented his district and has shown leadership by his co-sponsorship of House Bill 4 and his support of Proposition 12." The letter continues: "Both of these measures were urgently needed to help stabilize access to health care in Texas. The plaintiff attorneys have scorned Rep. Capelo and now are attempting to destroy him both personally and professionally. They seem to have forgotten that a person is innocent until proved guilty. We have great concern that Judge Sandra Watts will preside over the Capelo case. It is difficult to discern that she will have any objectivity regarding this case since she is directly related to Mikal Watts. She should consider herself potentially biased toward Rep. Capelo and recuse herself from this case. Corpus Christi and the state of Texas should be appreciative of the leadership of Jamie Capelo. Thank you. George Benavidez, MD; Heriberto Tejeda, MD; Vicente Juan, MD; J.E. Schultz, MD; Karl Stein, MD: Lawrence Brenner, MD; Charles Breckenridge, MD; Cecil Bourne, MD; Noe Sosa, MD; Maria Perez-Montes, MD; F. Zarinetchi, MD; Brent Hagemeister, MD; A. De La Guardia, MD; J.P. Schultz, MD; Charles Kennedy, MD; Victor Ortiz, MD; Jamie Pena, MD; Mark Kozlowski, MD; Karl Fan, MD; Thomas Turner, MD" The following doctors should be held accountable. http://freewebs.com/defensornews/dailycomentario.htm

Rose Vela's Term needs to be INQUIRIED.Posted on December 26, 2005 at 06:30:36 AM by Jaime KenedeñoWill the SUCCESSOR to her Bench demand one? Or will he "PLAY CHICKENSHIT" Will a SPECIAL PROSECUTOR BE APPOINTED? Public Policy demands an INQUIRY into the Rose Vela tenure. Do YOU MR "I will call you next week" second the motion (for an INQUIRY)?

A discussion on the Commissioner's court is applicable.Posted on December 26, 2005 at 02:25:15 AM by Jaime Kenedeño"One thing the library does have, however, is a namesake: the library will be named after Sam Fore Keach, editor and publisher of The Nueces County Record Star, and his family. Shamsie said the family has been a part of the community for 80 years, and as many of the family members are journalists, they exemplify the sorts of things a library is for." http://www.caller.com/ccct/local_news/article/0,1641,CCCT_811_4317023,00.html ======================================== Why would the Nueces County Commissioners and Shamsie name a library after a racist like Sam Keach? Posted on December 19, 2005 at 00:20:12 AM by Jaime Kenedeño Sounds like payback?? A discussion on the Commissioner's court is applicable.

Dear Mr. Oscar Ortiz,Posted on December 26, 2005 at 03:13:19 AM by Jaime Kenedeño======================================== Why would the Nueces County Commissioners and Shamsie name a library after a racist like Sam Keach? Posted on December 19, 2005 at 00:20:12 AM by Jaime Kenedeño Sounds like payback?? A discussion on the Commissioner's court is applicable. http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1135581915&user=defensornews http://forums.caller.com/cgi-bin/WebX?caller-229@94.zu17a8zqfSi^0@.ee74593/11 Dear Mr. Oscar Ortiz, Tomorrow I post on ericvonwade.com And Tues on KEYS Radio 1440 AM from 7-9 I will bring it up with Homero Villareal of El Defenzor Newspaper.

In response to Common Sense's "Homer isn't my first choice for radio host..."Posted on December 31, 2005 at 11:05:13 PM by Jaime KenedeñoJaime Kenedeno Posts: 1384 Re: Homer isn't my first choice for radio host... 12/31/2005 4:52 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CS: "I understand that Homer has a small following here" I dont think you understand CS. You must realize who Homer V is. Homer is well respected (whether hated or loved) by the South Texal Political Community. Montgomery and Associates consult with us (not the other way around). Everybody is listening and Bob Jones does get a lot of call when Homer is there. CS: "but I really don't care for him. I find him to be stubborn and inflexible." You are entitled to YOUR opinion but I find it highly inaccurate. I dsagree with Homer routinely and sometimes it is me and sometimes it is him who flexes. Homer will not allow one to condescend to him or any who are around him. I think that is where you have a problem. Homer will always listen if you speak to him with respect. Bob had some kind of a shouting match with some guy thursday morning and he seemed inflexible but IMO Bob was correct. However building a wall will never solve anything. CS: "I guess these are good qualities for someone who edits their own paper" Homer does not edit my writing and he cannot edit yours. So write specifically what you have a problem with and lets address it.. YOUR chance to make a difference. http://ericvonwade.com/community/display.asp?post_id=49084&board=1&board_name=General

""A Tickler of Events to Come" for the YANQUISPosted on December 27, 2005 at 05:11:53 AM by Jaime KenedeñoOk, trying to break down the factions and the affinities bringing them in and out of affiliation, I will try tomake sense of it ALL. Tony Canales & Mikal Watts have a common enemy in Jaime Capelo. While Mikal Watts claims to be exacting his influence against Capelo for Capelo not supporting (politically) his Mother Sandra Watts (Nueces County District Judge); the other reason might seem to the average citizen as a most motivating factor, it is the Legislation Capelo Co Authored with Joe Nixon HB 4. A local proposition Capelo wrote apparently evolved into the HB 4. This legislation limited product liability amount$ at $250k per victim. Canales seemingly should be applauding the Capelo Litigation as his close personal friend Hugo Berlanga sat Capelo into his vacated seat. Hugo had legal problems and probably was designing the medical legislation before he ran into legal allegations. So the bill is favorable to TWO FER, KFATSO & the Health care system; so why would Tony be mad? Senator Carlos Truan "retired" but sources tell me he was told to not run again. So now Nueces has nobody to replace Truan. Two Fer has his Daughter run assuming that the usual crowd will back the Dr Hector "coat tails". It seems a rift occurred. rene odriguez Jaime Capelo & Shamsie represented a new faction and backed Chuey Hinojosa over Barbara Canales. Tony was humiliated and this is his reason for stirring up the Police Officers Association (Citgo Faction). He YANQUIED the Cops into going after Rodriguez. Capelo (Citgo Atty) settled with Rodriguez (CCPOA Atty). Capelo settled out of court for a small fee of course. Lawyers always do these type of "Rebates" as Homero terms it. Two Fer already had this info when he roused the CCPOA up against Rodriguez. So was Capelo a fall guy to get at Rodriguez for Two Fer and Watts alligned with Two Fer so as to Finish Capelo. that is one part Solomon Ortiz represents the old school and has retained much of the old ties of Dr Hector. I would say more so than Two Fer the YANQUI. But this too is evolving into an "independent thinking" electorate. These labels Democrat & Republican mean nothing anymore. They too are used by the YANQUIS. Then there was Terry Arnold for the republicans. Abel Herrero is another spport system and probably allligns with one of the above but not Watts and his good government PAC. Nelda Martinez whom I understand is close with Mr Rangel's daughter. Watts is smart. Watt he is doing is picking the winners and influencing them with money. Watt does he expect in return is Wattt I am concerned about. "A Tickler of Events to Come"

Mikal Watts is not about Humanity or Goodwill he is about Mikal Watts.Posted on December 26, 2005 at 11:33:56 PM by Jaime KenedeñoSame thing with Vance Owen. They both used Mauricio Celis. He (Celis) brought the clients from Mexico through Vance to Watts. Then Watts distanced himself from all of the Players in the Firestone cases from Mexico (except an attorney named Mike Guerra in the Edinburgh Office). Vance took Mauricio on a spending contest going halves on many things including the EL TAPATIO, Ferrarri's, Havana Club,etc... etc...Women and more women. Whisked away on dates in the leer jet to Mexico and destinations unknown. I always wondered WATT they were packing on the way home. Probably money. Well I understand Mr Owens has since sold his half to Celis and is now liquid. I wonder what shit is fixing to hit the fan? CCPD has rumored of impropriety with these YANQUIs.

Texas Monthly Article OK but Needs some Hot Sauce

Roger S. - 07:32pm Dec 30, 2005 Central (#2 of 16)
HAPPY and SAFE NEW YEAR FROM Kenedy-Ranch.com the official Fernandez family web site and scrapbook!!! This site is the Fenandez family message center, and represents our family's independence from others who call themselves co-venture co-workers or employees. Anyone who disputes this is free to contact fernmr3@aol.com Posted at Caller.com on 12/ 30/ 05
Jaime Kenedeno - 08:16pm Dec 31, 2005 Central (#3 of 16)
Roger the scrap maker.
Fernandez is not your last name.
The official site is
http://www.kenedyranch.net
We know your mom put you up to it.
Tell the Fernandez' to pay their bills.
It is going to get RUFF.
Roger S. - 03:09am Jan 1, 2006 Central (#4 of 16)
Anton aka Jaime , and any of your real or fantasy co-workers you are banned from contact with the Fernandez family by e-mail, or other means and are banned from the one official Fernandez family central message web site Kenedy-Ranch.com please let me say to everybody else on behalf of my family thank you for all the e-mails we have received in 2005 and especially all the words of encouragement. Feliz ano nuevo from Kenedy-Ranch.com up-dates soon to follow posted on Caller.com 1/1/06
Jaime Kenedeno - 08:53pm Jan 1, 2006 Central (#5 of 16)
You cant ban me from that faux website. Somebody is RACKING up the DINERO.
I will email at my leisure if need be.
Ask Shamsie how he likes being guillotined for Ray Fernandez not keeping his committments. The beheading has begun for those who stuck their neck out for a dishonorable Medical Examiner and his lousy wifey.
Also, there aint nothin there at that Faux website.
To interact on the "Genuine Article" go to
http://www.kenedyranch.net
It has everything the Faux stole from us and much much more.
Roger S. - 12:31am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#6 of 16)
Kenedy-Ranch.com is the official Fernandez family member web site since it is the only way to contact them for some time now. No other web site has been in contact with them, and imposters are not welcome. Kenedy-ranch.com is non-faux and only non-fiction. Others may claim an employment, committment, or association and are in a fantasy world of government employee eg. medical examiner, Texas Ranger, police, F.B.I. cover-ups and are in dire need of help. These guys are the epitomes of Dee Dee Dees!!! Posted on Caller.com 1/2/06
Jaime Kenedeno - 01:28am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#7 of 16)
That is some stale Mantra you got for yuorself Rog.
Cant write anything else or too lazy.
Fix that faux website up like you promised everyone.
There you guys go again cant keep a committment, cant back up your smack and lame replies with the same lame propeller crap.
Write something new. Something dynamic surprise us.
LOL
Jaime Kenedeno - 01:29am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#8 of 16)
oh yeah do a google search on my intellectual property
kfatso
Then tell everyone I have done nothing for you louses.
Jaime Kenedeno - 01:59am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#9 of 16)
http://www.texasmonthly.com/textalk/article?sid=1826
Review: Texas Monthly Article OK but Needs some Hot Sauce Posted on September 2, 2004 at 05:21:59 AM by Jaime
First of all I must commend the Texas Monthly writer Gary Cartwright for the extensive research into the history and truth of the saga. He told the old story of Sarita, Brother Leo, Peter Grace, and remained mundane with the respect to the Vatican and Catholic Church.
I learned from his article of an encounter between Grandmother, Daughter in law, and Grand daughter / "illegitimate child". Although the age of Matilde is probably around 14 years old; Cartwright estimated her at 18 years old when the encounter occurred(1940). Marie Stella Turcotte Kenedy, Matilde's Paternal Grandmother (John G Kenedy Jr. & Sarita's Mother) is hospitalized at Spohn Hospital. Matilde was a volunteer working on the floor where Marie Stella was dying. At several different times she introduced Matilde to Johnny and Sarita. Then one day she introduced Matilde to Johnny's wife Elena Suess Kenedy. The article goes into the life of Maria Rowland. It describes how Ray Fernandez tracked down Maria's brother, Daniel Rowland and after considerable prompting confessed the family secret. He talks of a time when he and Tom Goates (a Corpus Christi Detective who was Maria's second husband) both knew that Matilde's father was John G Kenedy Jr. "But they never discussed it with other family members". Cartwright goes on to mention the sworn affidavit of Daniel Rowland. In the Affidavit Matilde's brother explained, " We were frightened of what the Kenedy family might do. We wanted to protect (Maria's) reputation.... South Texas was a much different place in the thirties and forties for working-class Mexican Americans. Those with money and large ranches made the rules." He recalled a day going with Goates to La Parra to ask for money from Johnny Kenedy. Daniel waited in the truck while Goates went into the house. Goates returne
Jaime Kenedeno - 02:00am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#10 of 16)
Continued Goates returned with a stuffed envelope. This in itself demonstrates the nature of Johnny to Maria and Matilde regarding the issue of inclusion in the Will. Johnny wanted to give to Matilde, the mother of his child as well as her husband Tom Goates. The article also conveys the shock and dis-belief Matilde and Ray exhibited upon discovery of the secret. Matilde was shown the video of her uncle's (Daniel Rowland) conversation with her son. Her confusion is tantamount to the fact that she never new Johnny was her biological father. She remembered first meeting Johnny at the hospital. She later recalled Johnny had brought her fruit baskets and dolls at Christmas time when she was much younger. Matilde also remembered sitting on Marie Stella's lap at the mansion and that Johnny's mother had once talked of sending her to a convent to be a Nun. The article allowed Ray Fernandez to explain his reasons for the litigation and the origins of a cause that has become much more than the land, oil uranium or riches involved. Although the article is redeeming and revealing; I must question why the author did not come out and rebuke the Vatican, the Catholic Church and KFATSO for thier audacious transgressions epitomizing the very oppression Tom Goates mentions. It is still going on. I also question Texas Monthly as to why Dr. Fernandez is not on the cover of the issue. His heritage has ascended to the Texas Supreme Court and will be front page worthy in the future. I guess they had thier chance? Also it concerns me that the article is placed in the middle of the magazine when it demands priority. It seems it was written to appease the Fernandez cause rather than exposing the true opposition. The author tiptoed the line and may have overstepped by telling us too much. I challenge him to do another article on the Fernandez cause, what and who it represents, and how the opposition to the cause is corrupt, oppressive and elitist. Tell us the "rest of the story" this time
Jaime Kenedeno - 03:57am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#11 of 16)
http://pub7.bravenet.com/forum/558086678/show/521255
A Mexican Heir is Blasphemy in South Texas
A Mexican Heir is Blasphemy in South Texas Posted on April 1, 2005 at 07:33:55 AM by Jaime
Colloquial Adaptation by Jaime Kenadeno
It is a new story and an old story. The fact that Power Rancher John G Kenedy Jr. engaged in the kind of "hybrid baby making" privately that his wife Elena Suess Kenedy denied publicly is not much of a surprise. After all, she excluded “illegitimates” in her will.
The media coverage around the recent announcement by Anita Matilde that “Johnny” was her biological father has danced rather timidly around some of the more affluent overclass in South Texas. There is no room for a Mexican heir. They are a “different breed of stock”.
Since the rape of non-white women by plantation owners and Southern Ranchers in antebellum days, white men have been able to reconcile their sexual encounters with non-white women with their support of anti-ethnic public policies. That is because discrimination has never been simply about separation of White and Non-White but about the subordination of one group to the will and interests of another.
The sexual exploitation of powerless non-white women by powerful white men was the corollary to the lynching and castration of black men and the murdering and imprisoning of Hispanic men. It was the norm.
Whatever the details, John G Kenedy Jr.’s sexual relationship with a hispanic teenage maid in South Texas in 1925 was a form of sexual exploitation. Was it an "affair," Ann Rowland; Anita Matilde’s mother displayed a love for “Johnny” who resembles her son Ray Fernandez. But, initially did Rowland have a consensual choice? Even though there is no evidence that Johnny intimidated or even threatened Anita Matilde’s mother, there is little chance she could have consented freely.
In 1925, most Non-Whites in the South were disenfranchised and utterly powerless. There were virtually no Hispani
Jaime Kenedeno - 03:58am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#12 of 16)
continued There were virtually no Hispanic judges, police or politicians, and Non-White citizens were treated as second-class in every respect, with little recourse.
The dictate of the 1857 Dred Scott Supreme Court decision that proclaimed, "black men have no rights that white men are bound to respect," although overturned by Reconstruction, was still very much in place. This applied to Hispanics in South Texas This applied to the women, as well. It was against this social and economic landscape that Ann Rowland entered into a sexual relationship with the young married Kenedy. He had all the power and privilege, and she was at his mercy.
Therefore, could Ann Rowland have said no to her employer'? Yes, in an absolute sense, perhaps she could have, but there would have been dire consequences. In small towns like Sarita, Kingsville and Corpus Christi, everyone knew everyone else. Hispanic servants were fired on a whim, and without a recommendation that she was trustworthy and compliant, who would have hired her? With no financial resources and no education, where would she have gone?
The sexual exploitation of Hispanic domestic workers, especially live-in maids was commonplace up until World War II, when the job market began to change. Until then, they were violated against their will routinely as almost a condition of employment. Ann Rowland, who lived a difficult life, was only one of many such women.
This was not a harmless boyhood antic or a benign "mistake," or something terribly at odds with his avowed marriage. This was an exploitation of a vulnerable Hispanic girl. It had more severe consequences for her life than for his. The baby was taken from her mother to prevent awkward embarrassment for the Kennedy’s, and the young mother lived out her days in shame and silence.
It is important to note that Rowland was only 18 when her child was born and probably 16 when the sexual encounters with “Johnny” began. She was a minor, under the age of consen
Jaime Kenedeno - 03:59am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#13 of 16)
continued She was a minor, under the age of consent in most states. Kenedy, who was ?? at the time, was an adult. While his actions speak to a larger pattern of sexual violation, they also seem to represent a case of statutory rape.
This reminds me of Ray Fernandez believing his Grandfather to be ///////// Fernandez and then his grandmother said to him he looks like Johnny. John Kenedy? You mean the president? That is when he questioned his roots. Naively Ray Fernandez asked ??????? ?????? is my Grandfather isnt he? "Not exactly," his mother replied with hesitation. "Your Grandmother was “taken” by a white man when she was 18, and that's what happened," she blurted out.
The white man was a prominent businessman in town. He provided financial support, I learned later. Remember Anita Matilde’s word: "taken."
Something had happened to Ann Rowland that she and her family had no power to prevent. Life went on, but there were scars -- scars on Hispanic women's bodies and minds.
A scorned Elena left her scars, too.
Jaime Kenedeno - 04:08am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#14 of 16)
Gracida & Patrick Flores flipped pedophile back & forth to protect the "Pot of Gold"!
This was information (my research) exposed upon Ray Fernandez Request Dr Fernandez went to the Church (St Joseph's) where Father Gerry Appleby molested the Altar Boys.
The Diocese of Pensacola-Tallhassee, on October 7, 1975. Bishop Rene H. Gracida, auxiliary Bishop of Miami, was appointed by Pope Paul VI to be the founding Diocesan Bishop. This new diocese in the panhandle would be the largest geographically in the state, 14,044 square miles with the smallest Catholic population at 34,000.
Source:
http://www.stpeter.ptdiocese.org/history.html
________________________________________ THIS IS AFTER GRACIDA OF FLORES SENT HIM TO ST PETERSBURG FOR HIS ASSAULTS HERE AT ST. JOSEPH'S IN THE BODY OF CHRIST. THEY KNEW HE WAS A PEDOPHILE. ________________________________________
Upon arriving in Texas, Father Appleby went to a church in the Archdiocese of San Antonio, in the small village of Charlotte. Members of the Gonzalez family insist he has molested at least four members of their family, altar boys and other children attached to small Texas parishes.
"How dare this bishop throw him over here in Texas and not do something there. They should have prosecuted him and thrown him in jail. They could have saved so many boys lives. My sister would have never have met him," said Virginia Gonzalez-Ortiz.
Source:
http://www.28news.com/stories/archive/020517appleby.shtml
THE ABOVE LINK HAS BEEN ERASED! I WONDER WHO DID THAT?
CHURCH UNIVERSAL????
Jaime Kenedeno - 04:17am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#15 of 16)
Am I Lying?
Is this a Fantasy for you Rog?
Rog: "fantasy world of government employee eg. medical examiner, Texas Ranger, police, F.B.I. cover-ups and are in dire need of help."
Texas Rangers are involved ask Mr Roberto Garza. Ray Fernandez knows him well.
Police are involved and reports are available.
FBI ask Christopher Gale, Sam Granato and Ringo.
Cover ups are being uncovered everyday ask Mr Shamsie, Tyner ask Jorge Rangel.
Go ahead prove me wrong I dare ya!
It is gonna get RUFF.
Ask Mary Cano & John Hubert.
Ask Catherine D Unger.
Jaime Kenedeno - 04:33am Jan 2, 2006 Central (#16 of 16)
Ask Catherine D Unger.
Oh yeah I forgot......... she is dead.
An unfortunate "Accident" right Ray?
She was ivestigating what I was researching for Ray Fernandez.
I have emails to prove it.
Ray, do ya got those conversations recorded?